cheaptonersucks Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) Hi, I am seeing more corrupt roaming profiles on the network. Running 2008R2 on the DC and Windows 7 x64 on all of the school machines. Deleting the local profile NEVER fixes the issue. Always have to delete the Network profile. It occurs on random machines and the same image is used throughout the school. Sophos AV and the same software on all machines. Static IP addresses used on all machines, printers etc. Any ideas what could be causing these corrupted profiles. One PC wouldn't even detect the students memory stick recently as they didn't realise that they had a temporary profile when they first logged in.. Any ideas on what to look at please? Edited December 10, 2017 by cheaptonersucks
3s-gtech Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Ughhh, roaming profiles. Are they hosted on a DFS-R share? Is DNS in perfect order? Are root permissions spot-on? I ditched the things years back as I didn't like them one bit, never regretted it. Thought about the alternatives, as their days are numbered? 2
witch Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 I hesitate to say this - but I have always had roaming profiles and very very few problems over the years - have to delete a corrupt profile now and again but it takes seconds 1
3s-gtech Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 I think they do work fundamentally, but they seem to highlight underlying flaws that may not matter otherwise. In Windows 10 they're not supported (but do work for some). 1
cheaptonersucks Posted December 10, 2017 Author Posted December 10, 2017 Hi, thanks for responding, I am a technician and unfortunately don't have the rights/permissions to access the servers to check the DNS and the root permissions etc. I will pass the information onto the NM though, as I am called to IT rooms to resolve these corrupt profiles on a weekly basis. I can delete the local profile but that never fixes the problem.
cheaptonersucks Posted December 10, 2017 Author Posted December 10, 2017 I didn't know that roaming profiles weren't supported in Windows 10! I am aware that DFS has been configured, but unfortunately I don't know if there are any DNS or root permission issues as I don't have server access. Are DNS and root permission issues the main causes of corrupt profiles then? Also, if roaming profiles are hosted on a DFS-R share, can that causes issues?
3s-gtech Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 If there are replication issues or faulty/missing DFS targets it could be problematic. Have a look at https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askds/2010/10/20/mythical-creatures-corrupt-user-profiles/ I think your static IP configuration, while it can work fine, is a difficult beast to maintain and I wonder if your have DNS issues as a result (e.g. some clients have the wrong server addresses configured). 1
ITGURU Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Always used roaming profiles here, still do with windows 10 and had no issues. Every now and again reset a profile but is very rare need to. 1
witch Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 @cheaptonersucks Do you run a script to delete profiles on log off? We do on fixed PCs and rarely have any issues on them. It is teacher laptops that have the corruption 1
cheaptonersucks Posted December 13, 2017 Author Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Thanks 3s-gtech, whenever I ask a student who has no files showing in their documents folder to login to a different machine, their documents are always there. Do you know what could be causing that kind of behaviour? I will have a look at the technet link as the profile situation seems to be getting worse. One thing for sure is that deleting the local profile never resolves the issue! Don't have much access so I can't check DNS errors or replication issues etc. Edited December 13, 2017 by cheaptonersucks
cheaptonersucks Posted December 13, 2017 Author Posted December 13, 2017 Thanks witch, we don't run a script that deletes profiles on log off. Does your script work ok with server 2008r2/Windows 7 please? If so,would it be possible to send me a copy of the script please?
cheaptonersucks Posted December 13, 2017 Author Posted December 13, 2017 Thanks ITGURU, interesting to hear that roaming profiles do work with Windows 10. What server OS are you using?
siuko Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Do you have offline caching of the shares turned off? It has been so long since we set this up I cannot remember the exact reason why we do it (but there is something to do with profile corruption) But we have a batch file in each folder of profiles (we have a folder for each year group) It contains the code below FOR /D %%G IN (*.*) DO NET SHARE %%G /CACHE:None And we schedule it each evening to run This will turn all caching off for all folders within the specific directory PS this is on Windows Server 2008 R2 and Windows 7 Edited December 13, 2017 by siuko 1
cheaptonersucks Posted December 15, 2017 Author Posted December 15, 2017 Thanks siuko, I will find out if offline caching of the shares is turned off. Thanks for the batch file, I will pass it on to the NM. Why dont NMs give techs more user rights and permissions??
MkII Posted December 16, 2017 Posted December 16, 2017 I can delete the local profile but that never fixes the problem. So are you saying that the profile is not successfully deleted, as the problem still exists on the machine? How are you deleting it? 1
cheaptonersucks Posted December 16, 2017 Author Posted December 16, 2017 I delete the local profile via advanced system settings, then select the user profile from the list. The local profile is then removed but after a reboot the problem still exists.
MkII Posted December 16, 2017 Posted December 16, 2017 Have you tried looking in the registry for remnants? I used to remotely wipe them with a script. My remote access is down until after the weekend sadly. 1
AlanD Posted December 16, 2017 Posted December 16, 2017 For us a corrupt profile is usually because the user has interrupted the logoff process in some way - possibly by pressing the reset button - sometimes because they can't be bothered to wait for some process to complete, and don't realise the consequence. Wiping the local cached profiles is not much help, because the resulting corrupt profile fails to load from the server, and worse still then makes the local profile match that corrupted one. We minimize what is stored in the local profile to make it load/save as quickly as possible, but like to offer some customisation (pined task bar items, bookmarks, recent files etc) because that can add significantly to usability. So you will need to do more than wipe the local copy....such as restore the server copy from a backup - or wipe it (much to the chagrin of the user - who will lose what they regard as important bits). 1
witch Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 I delete the local profile via advanced system settings, then select the user profile from the list. The local profile is then removed but after a reboot the problem still exists. I would do it by regedit - and you need to delete the corrupt profile from the server or it will just be pulled down again the next time the person logs on 1
cheaptonersucks Posted December 18, 2017 Author Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Thanks I will try all suggestions. Edited December 18, 2017 by cheaptonersucks
strawberry Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Could also use delprof to delete the profile. Is super useful. 1
JATSO Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 I would do it by regedit - and you need to delete the corrupt profile from the server or it will just be pulled down again the next time the person logs on That's what I do most of the time but it would be a pain in a large environment. 1
JATSO Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Could also use delprof to delete the profile. Is super useful. Does it work on Windows 10 Edu? because I stopped using it as it didn't seem to function like it did on Win 7. 1
AlanD Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Do you get a particular error - or is just that the user doesn't get the profile they expect ...perhaps non working internet...or not the correct start menu items? 1
cheaptonersucks Posted December 19, 2017 Author Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) No errors just missing documents or missing desktop shortcuts. Removing the network profile seems to fix it guys so thanks for the suggestions. Edited December 19, 2017 by cheaptonersucks
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