boomam Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Hi. Is there a way to set a pupils home folder so that they can do everything BUT delete. We have a few troublesome characters who like to delete their work for some bizzare reason. Ideas?
Michael Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Right click a Share and choose Properties > Security Tab > Advanced button > Effective Permissions tab Choose the Select button and enter a username. I don't know of a way of automating this for all users however!
boomam Posted March 10, 2008 Author Posted March 10, 2008 Hi. I can see the bit that your on about, but its all greyed out? I only need to do it for 2-3 users anyway. .
richardp Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Hi, the only problem I can see with doing this is that a lot of programs create temporary files (such as ms word) while you edit a document. Once it is saved the program deletes the temporary file, it would be unable to do it without the delete priv so you would end up with a load of old temporary files in the users folder. Richard
Michael Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Apologies boomam, my bad! Right click a Share and choose Properties > Security Tab > Advanced button. By default you should be on the Permissions tab. Highlight the pupil user in question (in the Permission entries list), then choose the Edit button. You can change permissions here.
boomam Posted March 10, 2008 Author Posted March 10, 2008 the only problem I can see with doing this is that a lot of programs create temporary files (such as ms word) while you edit a document. Once it is saved the program deletes the temporary file, it would be unable to do it without the delete priv so you would end up with a load of old temporary files in the users folder. What errors are likely to come up by me doing this? Apologies boomam, my bad! Right click a Share and choose Properties > Security Tab > Advanced button. By default you should be on the Permissions tab. Highlight the pupil user in question (in the Permission entries list), then choose the Edit button. You can change permissions here. Thanks. All sorted. .
enjay Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Hi. Is there a way to set a pupils home folder so that they can do everything BUT delete. We have a few troublesome characters who like to delete their work for some bizzare reason. Ideas? Sounds like a nightmare to manage if you set this up - presumably they will have to come to you each time they want a file deleting, for example draft versions of coursework, at the end of a project, or once they've downloaded a photo and imported it into PowerPoint? Also let's not forget the temporary / Word autosave file problem which richardp raised. Of course, even if you do set this up, it won't stop them from opening their work, deleting the contents and then saving the file.
elsiegee40 Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 That temporary files problem is very real ... I've managed to cause it myself (oops!)... Dozens of temporary files left lying around in the half hour it took me to realise what I'd done!
cookie_monster Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Also you can end up with corrupt docs word has issues with this, it seems to fall over when it can't delete the temp file and you end up with a 2k doc with nothing in and a corrupt temp file.
tech_guy Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Is there not a way to exclude the Word temp files?
Bestbett Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 What we do is kind of a 3 share technique.. 1. They have their student folder (they have full control of) 2. A Dropbox share for each teacher(where they turn in work when done, they have write only access to each teacher's folder) 3. A Labs share for each teacher (these are read only - for like worksheets and such that they can fill out then save into their home folder and turn in finished in Dropbox.)
boomam Posted March 11, 2008 Author Posted March 11, 2008 Well i havnt had a complaint from the affected pupil yet, so we'll see how it goes. .
mavhc Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 At my old school we did this by blocking the window titled "Confirm file delete" or whatever, using Impero. If they tried to delete the window was automatically closed.
boomam Posted March 11, 2008 Author Posted March 11, 2008 How would that be achieved now? Or is it gonna require paid software?
kennysarmy Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 would server 2003 and shadow copy feature help?
boomam Posted March 12, 2008 Author Posted March 12, 2008 would server 2003 and shadow copy feature help? Perhaps. But ive never managed to get shadow copy working..
elsiegee40 Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 I'd get posting here to get shadow working. It's a life-saver for me. The kids and staff don't know it's there... Mrs G can magically recover stuff that they have saved (our shadows are taken at 12 noon and 6pm) It's also proved once or twice that kids haven't saved properly at the end of a lesson... if you saved it in your lesson finishing at 11am, then it would be in the 12 noon shadow... AND IT ISN'T
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