Remove "Other User" wording from login screen

[Ephelyon]

I've found it needs to be done offline, i.e. having booted from a disc or the file replaced in your offline deployment image (then re-imported into WDS or whatever you are using). Although changing the owner from TrustedInstaller to Administrators and then granting Full Control to Administrators removes the permissions issue, sadly the file is constantly in use by WinLogon.exe (or similar) while the system is running.

 

One further note: if you have used the English International version of Windows 10 - as we have - then the file to change is in the en-GB subfolder, not en-US.

[TSEARS]

Yep, I set permissions to change the owner to admin and then grant permissions for the admin to modify the file. Would probably be easier to change it on the image and then re-upload it to SCCM or similar

Working on the GPO in between resetting passwords for staff

[DJ-1701]

I'll just mention, as this file is working with logon credentials, Microsoft may release an update to it in the future which may reset your hard work and need to modify a new file at a later date to be re-rolled out.

 

Thought it was worth pointing out as I have had hex edited dll files replaced before.

[clockend25]

Noice. However, ResEdit doesn't give me the option to save the file once edited.

[Ephelyon]

It should do if you copy the file to e.g. your desktop and edit it from there. It's because it detects that the file is currently in use (and, if you haven't changed the permissions, read-only).

[clockend25]

Yeah ta. A lot happened while I had that reply page open...

 

Sorted.

[TSEARS]

Glad there was a way to do it, dont know why MS dont make a GPO to change it as its such a simple but effective change! the text Other User never made sense

[Norphy]

Doesn't resource hacking make your Windows license explode? IANAL but I'm sure there's some text in there that says that you're not allowed to modify the built in binaries.

 

I doubt that MS would release their crack team of lawyers on you if you do it but they could withhold support from you if you end up having issues, even if they are unrelated.

[DJ-1701]

Doesn't resource hacking make your Windows license explode? IANAL but I'm sure there's some text in there that says that you're not allowed to modify the built in binaries.

 

I doubt that MS would release their crack team of lawyers on you if you do it but they could withhold support from you if you end up having issues, even if they are unrelated.

 

IANAL either... what an unfortunate acronym... but companies have been known to modify Microsoft dll files for machines on their network. For example, some have previously manipulated MSGINA.dll to give a custom login interface... which I think RM did in CC3 so you could have a custom logo.

[Ephelyon]

RM probably had the money to license those modifications out from Microsoft, though, with appropriate examination, sign-off, exemption of those areas of code from future automatic updates to the GINA etc...

[sparkeh]

RM did indeed alter the GINA in CC3 but the licensing was different in XP. It changed with Vista onwards which is why they never altered the GINA with CC4.

[FreelanceX]

Hi All,

 

If anyone is interested I managed to find a solution to change the "Other user" text on the login screen.

Here is a screenshot of our login screen:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]38350[/ATTACH]

 

We changed the text to our school name and the picture is a effort at a 'Material design' concept of our school, i think it flows pretty well!

 

To change the text, the file in question that needs editing is "credprovhost.dll.mui" which is located in "C:\Windows\System32\en-US"

To edit the file I used a DLL file editor called ResEdit which is pretty simple to use. Here is the process you need to go through:

 

1. Once installed the software, run it and select "Hacker mode" from the menu

[ATTACH=CONFIG]38351[/ATTACH]

 

2. Open the "String Table" from the menu on the left and locate the Other User string, should be ID number 100

[ATTACH=CONFIG]38352[/ATTACH]

 

3. Once you have selected the Other user string, change the text to your custom text and then save the file.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]38353[/ATTACH]

 

I saved a backup of the file before which I advise you to do.

 

Once done, just add a GPO to overwrite the file at boot, but test the file on one machine first!

 

Followed your guide doing this, as have tried to do something like this for clients for a long time.

 

Did what you said and directly edited that file from an offline wim, before importing it into MDT.

 

The result:

 

 

Looks great. But... To get the logo to apply to the logon screen, I had to set the policy to apply it to all users?

 

So anyone with their Microsoft account attached, or having a logo pulled from elsewhere, gets overridden.

 

What I want, is the logo to appear on the logon screen and get to the point where AD photos show for each user when they log in (I have been looking at scripts to do this as this isn't a simple task). But with this GPO applied, I wont be able to do that as it disables the ability for custom logos?

 

Am I doing something wrong...?

[Garacesh]

What I want, is the logo to appear on the logon screen and get to the point where AD photos show for each user when they log in (I have been looking at scripts to do this as this isn't a simple task). But with this GPO applied, I wont be able to do that as it disables the ability for custom logos?

The logon screen shows the default user account image, so replacing those files fixes your logon screen. The way we did it was to have a script run (as part of WDS) that overwrote the default user images (the unhappy cyclops, as I call it). I had a thread about it a while back. Hopefully this should help.

As for having AD photos overwrite them on login, can you assign user profile images to an account? I'd suspect it be possible, but you'd need a roaming profile for each student?

Edited October 26, 2016 by Garacesh

[Norphy]

RM did indeed alter the GINA in CC3 but the licensing was different in XP. It changed with Vista onwards which is why they never altered the GINA with CC4.

 

Not strictly true. The GINA was always extensible. Products such as CC3 and Userlock put their own extensions in it. The GINA was actually removed from Vista onwards which is why RM had to change their approach for CC4. But we're getting off topic now so I'll shut up before the mods come along.

[FreelanceX]

I have replaced all the files. But unless I apply the policy to enforce it for all users, it still shows the default logo. Not sure how as not even sure where it pulls it from now all files have been changed.

 

With the user pics, they are in AD, so show up in outlook for example, but this doesn't input it into Windows 10. Its a different process.

 

I have been looking at a script that pulls the picture from the AD and then sets it as the user tile. But first I need to sort out the default picture getting set without forcing it upon all users.

[Simcfc73]

Mmm, cant get mine to overwrite the file, always says I dont have permission even when I deploy through GP. I've taken control of the file but it wont save the permissions. I'm doing in on a VHD of a test machine so its not in use. Not sure what I am doing wrong.

[TSEARS]

Can you change the owner to yourself or the Administrator account? After doing so you should be able to set permissions.

 

I had to have a GPO which changed the permissions on the DLL file and then another one to overwrite the file in question.

[Simcfc73]

Ill try setting the permission manually tomorrow and redeploy it. Just got mandatory profiles sorted so this is my next job. Edited December 6, 2016 by Simcfc73

[fiza]

Has anything changed since the original post about removing the "other user" wording. Is there an official way of doing it now?

[hglyde]

I've spent hours searching without any luck. Very frustrating so also interested if anyone has a solution.

[MatthewL]

What about setting in GPO not to remember the last user, and use the CTRL ALT DEL prompt would this not work?

[AJWhite1970]

Has anything changed since the original post about removing the "other user" wording. Is there an official way of doing it now?

 

I don’t think it’s officially supported but editing and replacing the credprovs.dll.mui file still works in 1809.

[hglyde]

Is this still working in 1909?

[Garacesh]

Is this still working in 1909?

 

It's still working in 1903, I can say that much.

[mdrabble]

Yes, still works in 1909 - but you need to edit the version on 1909 as it changed compared to 1803 - so you cannot use the 1803 file on 1909 (if that makes sense)