hardtailstar Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Hi All, I am looking at hosting one or two websites at home on a server, What is the best way to go about this? Thanks
Steve21 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 How important a site? Obviously depends on things like whether you have static IP or dynamic, if dynamic do you use a free DNS alternative or a paid for one. If it's important website consider things like QoS on routers do your "random downloads" don't nuke your site offline. DMZ it off from main network etc, or use port forwarding blah blah More info! Steve 1
pcstru Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Set up server. Plug it in. Profit! Seriously though, other than the server and web services, you should just need some kind of DNS, so packets can find the back of your router on what is probably a leased dynamic IP (changeable). Most people tend to use a Dynamic DNS service which are supported by their router. 1
Edu-IT Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Is it cost effective when you can pick up reliable hosting for as little as £1.50 a month?
hardtailstar Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 How important a site? Obviously depends on things like whether you have static IP or dynamic, if dynamic do you use a free DNS alternative or a paid for one. If it's important website consider things like QoS on routers do your "random downloads" don't nuke your site offline. DMZ it off from main network etc, or use port forwarding blah blah More info! Steve Not actually done anything yet, It will be only for a local Scout group I am involved in, so trying to save costs. Set up server. Plug it in. Profit! Seriously though, other than the server and web services, you should just need some kind of DNS, so packets can find the back of your router on what is probably a leased dynamic IP (changeable). Most people tend to use a Dynamic DNS service which are supported by their router. Just to be clear this will be at my house so just using the standard Virgin home broadband.
GTX Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Hi Hardtailstar! Wack Centos 6 on the machine. And run CentOS Web Panel | Free Linux Web Hosting Control Panel Iv used it a few times. Great bit of kit to say its free. Even has CSF firewall pre-installed. Just remember your IP may change also you need to port forward 80 21 22 2030 etc If you have any questions give me a shout Rick
Steve21 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Then you'll need something like NO-IP to keep your web address pointing to the right IP address as yours will change whenever you disconnect etc etc Remote Access with Dynamic DNS - 100% DNS Uptime - No-IP And that will probably work out more expensive than just hosting it in the web :s Steve
Edu-IT Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Not actually done anything yet, It will be only for a local Scout group I am involved in, so trying to save costs. Tsohost offer free hosting to charities. I'm not sure if you'd be eligible for that, or, a discounted rate. www.tsohost.com
mats Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 I'd suggest it's not worth the hassle of having a webserver at home. Go to digital ocean / aws / any one of a million providers and enjoy the greater reliability, connectivity and uptime of a proper server. Only a few £ pm now.
Arthur Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Go to digital ocean / aws / any one of a million providers and enjoy the greater reliability, connectivity and uptime of a proper server. Only a few £ pm now. +1. There's also GitHub Pages which is completely free. http://readwrite.com/2013/11/27/github-pages-explained
ThePurpleK Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Hi All, I am looking at hosting one or two websites at home on a server, What is the best way to go about this? Thanks You'd much prefer using DigitalOcean for hosting small projects, but if you want a home server just as a hobby, set up a server with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and set up an appropriate stack for your applications. For website hosting, I'd recommend nginx, with your domain placed behind CloudFlare to mitigate threats your existing setup might miss. If you have a dynamic IP address, get DynDNS.
robsonma Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Hi, I used to host all my own website's on my own servers. Contacted my ISP and got a static ip, most will do it for around £5 one off fee. re-booted router and put a port forward on my router to my machine, I Used a old pc running Windows Server 2003r2 and worked good with IIS Installed also moved some to Linux, (Followed youtube Vids) easy to install. Don't forget to work things out which is why i stopped! Elec for the Server Running 24/7 was around £10 per month, with cost of Backups ect GoDaddy was only charging £11 pm so I went with Go Daddy shared hosting, easy to get SSL Certificates installed ect, Backup and support included.
ThePurpleK Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Hi, I used to host all my own website's on my own servers. Contacted my ISP and got a static ip, most will do it for around £5 one off fee. re-booted router and put a port forward on my router to my machine, I Used a old pc running Windows Server 2003r2 and worked good with IIS Installed also moved some to Linux, (Followed youtube Vids) easy to install. Don't forget to work things out which is why i stopped! Elec for the Server Running 24/7 was around £10 per month, with cost of Backups ect GoDaddy was only charging £11 pm so I went with Go Daddy shared hosting, easy to get SSL Certificates installed ect, Backup and support included. I haven't touched shared hosting in a long time. Too many issues. It would actually be cheaper to get a $10 VPS from DigitalOcean. It's definitely worth learning how to deploy websites on Linux.
pcstru Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Elec for the Server Running 24/7 was around £10 per month, with cost of Backups ect GoDaddy was only charging £11 pm so I went with Go Daddy shared hosting, easy to get SSL Certificates installed ect, Backup and support included. It's a good point on electric costs. I figure 1 Watt 24/7 is a nice round ~£1 a year, so if you have a server drawing 120W - that is £120 a year. On the other hand, a Raspberry Pi running 24/7 will cost you under a couple of quid a year and a nice little Atom based server should be around £30. I even switch hi-fi amps and my Sub off now - which is a pain but it's just silly spending money to keep stuff warmed up.
CyberNerd Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 It's a good point on electric costs. I figure 1 Watt 24/7 is a nice round ~£1 a year, so if you have a server drawing 120W - that is £120 a year. On the other hand, a Raspberry Pi running 24/7 will cost you under a couple of quid a year and a nice little Atom based server should be around £30. I even switch hi-fi amps and my Sub off now - which is a pain but it's just silly spending money to keep stuff warmed up. And you do get to keep it super secure and away from the eyes of the NSA
ITGURU Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I used to run my own website and photography site off my own server at home until wanted higher upload bandwidth for clients accessing images. However, I have still used dyndns for years and never once has it let me down as use it still for accessing cctv, email remote access from dynamic ip. I have a server on 24/7 for accessing client photos anyway, so running additional services off it (hyper-v) is of no bother to me. most routers will allow you to set up dyndns rather than needing the client so if your router ever reboots it will update the domain ip instantly.
steveking Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I run a website from home, and have done for, er, 15 years. My server is an Atom based machine, and with two spinny hard drives inside it it and it can't use much power as my entire networking kit draws about 30W (and that includes bt modem, sky router, unifi wap, gig switch, and the server) I did use no-ip (and even paid them for a few years to avoid the monthly nagging), but after they "broke" for a few days I put my eggs into different baskets and dynamic dns is now done by both dnsexit and changeip. I actually use some DNS voodoo (it's a nasty hack) to run my own dns server too. Yes, I know, it's bad to run the dns server on the same machine, and even more so when the backup dns server is the same machine - but then it's nothing vital and if the machine dies there's no point the dns pointing to it! It means I can play about and make sub domains easily. Sky offer static IP address as part of their fibre-pro, but as they refuse to give me any discount from £30/month I'm on their normal fibre with dynamic ip address (although it's pretty static - maybe one or two changes a year, and for £7.50/month I can cope with that). 10 megabit upload is more than enough, and on a drupal site I also run on it it's clearly cpu limited not bandwith limited - but that's ok too. There's no reason to run the stuff at home other than to let me play - a minimal vps for a quid or two a month would be better if you just want something simple - lowendbox.com if you want to find current cheapo virtual servers.
hardtailstar Posted October 29, 2015 Author Posted October 29, 2015 Cheers all, I will look into all the suggestions
vizubeat Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Really torn on this issue myself - do I run a server at home on a separate box, spend like £5/month on a VPS somewhere and do it myself, or pay a company peanuts per month or year to manage web, email, security and everything else associated with hosting *properly* for me on a shared hosting platform. By all means run a small server at home to experiment with, but unless you really have the time and expertise, pay someone else for some shared hosting. If you're doing it yourself at home I'd always recommend running Linux, Ubuntu or CentOS (that free panel that @GTX mentioned looks cool!) and ideally virtualised, allows for greater flexibility. If you did want to go down the VPS route, OVH are doing VPSs for £3/month -- VPS Hosting: Your virtual server in the Cloud- OVH -- other even cheaper options available at Low End Box - Cheap VPS Hosting Providers Listing & Reviews Too many shared hosting options to mention, they're all absolutely fine these days. I can recommend you one that I've used before, £10 per year for 1GB storage, 50GB transfer, 100 mailboxes, 5 MySQL databases etc etc -- won't post here but PM me if you'd like to know more.
mikeyd101 Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Google Site? can be hosted on free google drive?
Arthur Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 can be hosted on free google drive? Probably not. http://googleappsupdates.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/deprecating-web-hosting-support-in.html Beginning 31 August 2015, web hosting in Google Drive for users and developers will be deprecated. Google Apps customers can continue to use this feature for a period of one year until 31 August 2016, when serving content via googledrive.com/host/doc id will be discontinued.
pcstru Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 And you do get to keep it super secure and away from the eyes of the NSA Either your reply to the text you quote makes no sense or perhaps you are in the wrong thread?
CyberNerd Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Either your reply to the text you quote makes no sense or perhaps you are in the wrong thread? It was my idea of a laugh about the thread yesterday.
howartp Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 Im sure this will be against the T&C of Virgin. I don't think so unless it's changed - I asked them several years ago and although I can't remember the details of the answer (i didn't proceed) it wasn't definitely 'no'.
GTX Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 YOur best bet is to go on LowendBox. Find a well known VPS company for like $2 a month. Wack Centos panel on it. You have the best of both worlds. Full control and a control panel
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