adamholt1 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Hi, Any help would be greatly appreciated as everything I read seems to be contradictive and my supplier inst helping much either!!! Currently in the process of obtaining quotes for a new server with the purchase of Server 2012 R2 as were currently on 2008 R2. The school has approximately 100 devices that would be on the domain plus a further 100 mobile devices such as iPads. There is approximately 125 staff in the school - not all do access the network though. There is me and another technician that will directly access the server. How many CALs do I need? Do I need 2 for me and the tech that will be directly accessing the server? Do I need CALs for all the users? Do I need CALs for all the devices? Help!! Thanks!
ChrisH Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 You will need CALs for all your domain joined clients.
Boredguy Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Do you currently have a EES agreement in place for your Microsoft licenses for workstations? Otherwise you should need a Windows 2012 Cal for each device that can communicate with the windows servers (including receiving a DHCP address) Any MFP's you have that should also be counted if you go for Device CALs otherwise the User CAL should cover it.
3s-gtech Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Are you on EES? If so, the number of server CALs will be the same as your FTE count, and is included in your desktop pack. If you're not on EES (and why not? It'll save a packet!) you'll need to do a per-device or per-user count (per device will be cheaper it seems).
tmcd35 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 You buy CAL's either Per User or Per Device - it's up to you, which ever will work out cheaper. Rember CAL's are supposed to live and die with the user/device so when new users/devices replace old user/devices (staff leave, new year group, replacement IT suite) then you need to buy new CAL's. Almost always, in schools Per Device is the cheapest route because you don't want to be buying CAL's for each and every students (££££'s). As others have suggested, EES can usually work out even cheaper but its value depends heavily on you planed upgrade cycle since it is an annual subscription and other agreements are perpetual licences.
Oaktech Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 I would suggested calling Kate at Millgate licensing and discussing things with her... She knows everything
NeustroEduIT_Christine Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 Hello, The school can license CALs either through the number of devices or through the number of users accessing the server, it depends on whatever is most cost effective for you. User CALs tend to be more popular as most users want to access software through multiple devices now. However device CALs would be better if, for example, you had a number of computers specifically designated for the users - it might be less expensive to use device CALs. Hope this helps. Christine
mavhc Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 You buy CAL's either Per User or Per Device - it's up to you, which ever will work out cheaper. Rember CAL's are supposed to live and die with the user/device so when new users/devices replace old user/devices (staff leave, new year group, replacement IT suite) then you need to buy new CAL's. Almost always, in schools Per Device is the cheapest route because you don't want to be buying CAL's for each and every students (££££'s). As others have suggested, EES can usually work out even cheaper but its value depends heavily on you planed upgrade cycle since it is an annual subscription and other agreements are perpetual licences. You don't need to buy new CALs, they can be reassigned fine. Also they don't exist so there's no way to track that.
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