scotyboy56 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 If you want to just buy a pre-built machine I suggest this GLADIATOR GTX 760 FX-8350 4.0GHz 8x Core Next Day Gaming PC I brought myself that plus a 120GB SSD and a wireless card. They build it for you and run tests on it for about 16 hours I think it was to make sure everything works fine. It work's fine on all the games I play, and I haven't had any issues with it. The only thing extra I have is another 8GB of Ram coming in the post which I got for christmas.
abillybob Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Aside from omitting a GPU (which you can't do on a 39** CPU, so would need a cheap fill-in) it wouldn't fit in the current budget, to upgrade later. The 780Ti is also an odd choice now, against the 970 which costs less and can overclock well beyond it. Should we bring drivers into this!? My main problem with all my ATI GPU's was Driver's they seemed buggy and unstable to me (although now we're talking 8 years ago was the last time I had an ATI card) don't know whether they have improved on this but all I ever had was issues and have told myself I'll only ever go Nvidia! If you want to just buy a pre-built machine I suggest this GLADIATOR GTX 760 FX-8350 4.0GHz 8x Core Next Day Gaming PC I brought myself that plus a 120GB SSD and a wireless card. They build it for you and run tests on it for about 16 hours I think it was to make sure everything works fine. It work's fine on all the games I play, and I haven't had any issues with it. The only thing extra I have is another 8GB of Ram coming in the post which I got for christmas. Hmmm by looking at the specs I'd deem that quite expensive for what it is!? Edited January 5, 2015 by abillybob
3s-gtech Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 By 970 I mean GTX 970 - i.e. Nvidia. ATI hasn't existed since 2010. I personally haven't had driver issues, but my old 4850 just died, and the fan on my 6870 died (replaced it before it got toasted).
scotyboy56 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Hmmm by looking at the specs I'd deem that quite expensive for what it is!? Not really, if you add all the components up individually you actually save a bit of money by buying it prebuilt, then you get the build for free (I know that takes the fun out off it) plus they run tests to make sure nothing is wrong with the components Plus IT HAS BLUE LIGHTS!!!
abillybob Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Plus IT HAS BLUE LIGHTS!!! Pfft IT pro's go for RED ONE'S ACTUALLY!!! 1
jaminben Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Pfft IT pro's go for RED ONE'S ACTUALLY!!! We have some pro's here and they generally go for a red light as well....
edutech4schools Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 So if I can beg, borrow some extra cash this GPU would be a good choice? Gigabyte GTX970 WindForce 3 OC 4GB Nvidia (Maxwell) PCI Express Graphics Card * Scan Exclusive * - GV-N970WF3OC-4GD - Scan.co.uk Otherwise I might just go with a pre built as it has a blue light
Garacesh Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Pfft IT pro's go for RED ONE'S ACTUALLY!!! Pfft. You don't know what you're talking about. Mine lights up purple Breakin' the mold, right here! I'll get you my PC spec when I get home, it cost me around £650 to build* (So it'll be cheaper now and give you some wiggle room) and it hasn't let me down yet, I can play every game I throw at it on max settings (Though I haven't tried Crysis ) * By now I've sunk at least £850-£900 if you factor in case replacements, new peripherals, the SSD etc. But the original spec cost around £600-£650ish. Edited January 5, 2015 by Garacesh
DalekSec Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 So if I can beg, borrow some extra cash this GPU would be a good choice? Gigabyte GTX970 WindForce 3 OC 4GB Nvidia (Maxwell) PCI Express Graphics Card * Scan Exclusive * - GV-N970WF3OC-4GD - Scan.co.uk Otherwise I might just go with a pre built as it has a blue light That's my GPU I use, highly recommend, makes very little noise and keeps nice and cool
ataylor Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 So if I can beg, borrow some extra cash this GPU would be a good choice? Gigabyte GTX970 WindForce 3 OC 4GB Nvidia (Maxwell) PCI Express Graphics Card * Scan Exclusive * - GV-N970WF3OC-4GD - Scan.co.uk Otherwise I might just go with a pre built as it has a blue light That is just the first revision I clicked on so It might be worth checking which to get, but to my knowledge they are pretty much all the same, just different manufactures designs and different display interfaces.
scotyboy56 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 That's my GPU I use, highly recommend, makes very little noise and keeps nice and cool But what colour is it?
sonofsanta Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 So if I can beg, borrow some extra cash this GPU would be a good choice? Gigabyte GTX970 WindForce 3 OC 4GB Nvidia (Maxwell) PCI Express Graphics Card * Scan Exclusive * - GV-N970WF3OC-4GD - Scan.co.uk Otherwise I might just go with a pre built as it has a blue light That GPU would be, I think it's fair to say, the very best choice. Gigabyte Windforce cooler is a good 'un, and although the GTX980 is better, it's not that much better considering how much more it costs. 970 is absolutely the sweet spot for price/performance at the moment and the only people going for 980s are those for whom money is no object. Without getting into specifics on components, I'd say an i5 is more processor than you'll ever need for a gaming PC; an i3 will be all you need right now, but hopefully game engines will start multithreading better now that the consoles are so flush with cores. Don't pay for a K processor unless you're actually going to overclock; tbh any i5-4XXX CPU will be fine, you're not missing out on much getting a slightly lower clocked one to save £30-40. Get 2 x 4GB RAM now and you can easily upgrade with another 2 x 4GB in future. Get a 256GB SSD for your OS/other apps and a big mechanical drive to install games to; they don't benefit a great deal from being installed on an SSD, so you can save money on your SSD capacity. And only get a PSU that you can find a good review for on jonnyguru.com
X-13 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Plus IT HAS BLUE LIGHTS!!! Pfft IT pro's go for RED ONE'S ACTUALLY!!! Why not both?! PURPLE LIGHTS FOR EVERYONE!
Garacesh Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) My purple lights are from purple LED fans and purple* LED light strips. None of this colour-mixing lark. * They look a bit purply-pink on the machine, but the glow the feed onto the walls etc is a deep purple. Edited January 5, 2015 by Garacesh
DMcGuigan Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 My lights are blue, everything else to do with my PC from keyboard to headset is green.. though the headset has full spectrum. Kinda feel jealous about the purple..
LincolnE Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) For what it's worth, I can max out most games that I throw at my one year old 4gb 270x (Although, to be fair I don't play many AAA titles). (Actually, scratch that. I bought it for £120 new, it seems it's gone up by about 60 quid in such time)... but it's still a decent card for 1080p stuff. (Full Orange design here, but that's because it was the both the colour of the case when I bought it and also the colour of the cheapest watercooling tubes ) Edited January 5, 2015 by LincolnE
CHR1S Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Get a 256GB SSD for your OS/other apps and a big mechanical drive to install games to; they don't benefit a great deal from being installed on an SSD, so you can save money on your SSD capacity. Two years go I would agree, but £/Gb on SSDs is far more acceptable. If you can afford it, go for SSD. I used to migrate my frequent games over to my SSD using steam tool and stored the others on a 2Tb HDD. It wasn't ideal but worked great and you notice the difference in speed. 1
Garacesh Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) A lot of this stuff is end-of-life now as my rig is a fair few years old, but still runs great. So any successor parts will be more than sufficient. I've provided links to the stuff I've been able to relocate, but again, due to EOL parts, some of it is difficult to find. Zalman 711 Plus Midi Tower Case - £51.99 600W Silverstone Strider SST-ST60F- - £39.60 Asus F2A55, A55 FCH, FM2, DDR3, SAT - £57.55 1GB MSI Radeon HD 7850 OC 4800MHz G - £99.78 Corsair Hydro Series H60 2013 Editi - £49.60 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance - £34.34 AMD A10 5800K Black Edition, S FM2 - £77.58 2TB WD WD20EARX Caviar Green Quiet - £58.95 Logitech Z313 Speakers - £38.00 Hanns-G HL229DPB 21.5" Monitor - Unknown* 2x Corsair Air Series SP120 Purple (Twin-pack) - £31.48 Corsair Air Series SP120 Purple (Single) Crucial CT120M500SSD1 120GB SSD - Unknown ** * Can't find the receipt for it, probably paid around £90 at the time? ** Same. I got it on sale.. Probably cost me around the same, at the time? Overall comes to around £750*** (given that I don't know the prices of 2 of the items), but if we take into account you don't need a monitor, that shaves around a hundred quid off. You could easily drop to USB-powered cheapo speakers for another saving of around £30, cheaper case knocks another £30 off, less fans (or less fancy fans) could save you a bit. *** This doesn't include parts I've put in and replaced over the years, just what it is right now. Including all my past parts it's probably around another £50-£100. Truth be told, though, if you wanted to build a budget PC on £600, I'd seriously recommend pairing a Pentium K with a Z97 motherboard and spending a little extra on your GPU. Edited January 5, 2015 by Garacesh
edutech4schools Posted January 6, 2015 Author Posted January 6, 2015 OK so far I have Intel Core i5 i5-4690K CPU (Quad Core 3.5GHz Processor, 6MB Cache, Intel HD 4600 Graphics, Socket H3 LGA-1150) Gigabyte GTX970 WindForce 3 OC 4GB Nvidia (Maxwell) PCI Express Graphics Card Next I need to find a motherboard that supports socket 1150 and is cheap (to make up for expensive CPU and GPU) Would these do???? MSI Z97-G43 Socket 1150 VGA DVI HDMI 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard - Ebuyer Asus H81-PLUS socket 1150 8-Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard - Ebuyer
Sunnyknight Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 *mumbles under his breath* Giga do one for 98 quid. *mumbles under breath* *quad core pshhhh* *mumbles*
sonofsanta Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 You need a Z97 board to overclock that i5-4690K processor. If you're not interesting in overclocking, there's no point in buying the 4690K - get a slightly lower i5 without the K suffix. Stick to MSI, Gigabyte or Asus and you'll be alright, in general. Motherboards aren't as important as they once were now that so much is on the CPU.
Sunnyknight Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 You need a Z97 board to overclock that i5-4690K processor. If you're not interesting in overclocking, there's no point in buying the 4690K - get a slightly lower i5 without the K suffix. Stick to MSI, Gigabyte or Asus and you'll be alright, in general. Motherboards aren't as important as they once were now that so much is on the CPU. Dont listen to him. Buy that cpu! GO ON DO IT! DONT OVERCLOCK IT EITHER!!! I KNEW YOU NEVER LOVED TECH! *runs away crying*
Garacesh Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 You need a Z97 board to overclock that i5-4690K processor. If you're not interesting in overclocking, there's no point in buying the 4690K - get a slightly lower i5 without the K suffix. Stick to MSI, Gigabyte or Asus and you'll be alright, in general. Motherboards aren't as important as they once were now that so much is on the CPU. Yep, K-series are built for overclocking. Although Z97 boards have very good AI-overclocks built in from what I hear, which is why I'd recommend the Pentium K Anniversary.. Built a rig with one for a friend and it's played out wonderfully.. You're building a gaming rig, remember. Most of the load is going to be on your GPU, not your CPU. Don't be afraid to under-spec your CPU a little, you won't see much of a difference. As for the MoBo itself, @sonofsanta hits the nail on the head. I've never had any issues with MSI or Gigabyte, haven't ever used Asus. MSI is geared more towards overclocking where as I find Gigabyte are more the catch-all jack-of-all-trades, but given motherboard don't vary a great deal on price these days, you're fairly safe as long as the socket matches.
3s-gtech Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Go for the Z97 board. Pair it with some cheap RAM - 8GB of 1600MHz DDR3 will do but there are good deals about on faster stuff.
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