MrEprise Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 For me, once I saw the folder with it's 5GB+ content, I restarted my test PC then opened Windows Update which gave me the option to upgrade from there.
Trapper Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Hah! Looks like I can't do an in situ upgrade from Windows 8 to 10 in VMware due to the graphics adapter not working. Which is odd as all the clean Windows 10 VMs I've built work just fine!
cookie_monster Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 So is the general consensus that Windows 10 is lighter than 7 or 8.1? My parents have a 2011 laptop that's ready for a reinstall. Dual core with 4Gb RAM. Should I stick 7 back on or jump to 10?
newpersn Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Its appering in the Windows update history "Upgrade to windows 10 pro" and failed? No idea why?
Arthur Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 So is the general consensus that Windows 10 is lighter than 7 or 8.1? Definitely! Faster booting, smaller footprint make Windows 10 an easy upgrade for old PCs « Ars Technica From a speed and resource usage standpoint, Windows 10 is a clear improvement no matter what version of Windows you’re upgrading from. Current Windows 7 users stand to benefit the most, but Windows 8.1 users save quite a bit of disk space, and 8.1 with Bing users get a simplified partition scheme. Gamers: It’s safe to upgrade to Windows 10 « Ars Technica Suffice it to say, if you're still rocking Windows 7—which is generally anywhere from 5 to 20 percent slower than Windows 8 and 10—it is probably time to finally make the jump. https://twitter.com/ncbrady/status/627598623283523584 http://i.imgur.com/eVhqZo2.png My parents have a 2011 laptop that's ready for a reinstall. Dual core with 4GB RAM. Should I stick 7 back on or jump to 10? Windows 10 would be a no brainer. 2
AliG Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I notice i have a folder in the c drive around 5gb. How long till windows 7 tells me that I can upgrade? You can start the upgrade early by using the Windows 10 media creation tool then choose either make media USB/DVD or start the upgrade straight away
cookie_monster Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Definitely! Faster booting, smaller footprint make Windows 10 an easy upgrade for old PCs « Ars Technica Gamers: It’s safe to upgrade to Windows 10 « Ars Technica https://twitter.com/ncbrady/status/627598623283523584 http://i.imgur.com/eVhqZo2.png Windows 10 would be a no brainer. OK so next question, I've had the upgrade notification on my HP Envy notebook. I've backed up my data, should I go for it? I have a couple of user accounts on there that use Windows live sign in and have Onedrive etc configured, will this still all work or is it all massively changed again? Cheers.
newpersn Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Am I better off running the setup on my current OS. (Just as a upgrade) Then wire and reinstall on a ssd. I'm about to order a ssd for my computer.
Arthur Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I've backed up my data, should I go for it? Yes. I have a couple of user accounts on there that use Windows live sign in and have Onedrive etc configured, will this still all work or is it all massively changed again? I don't see why it shouldn't work, although the only computers I have upgraded so far all had local accounts. Am I better off running the setup on my current OS. (Just as a upgrade) Then wipe and reinstall on a ssd. I'm about to order a ssd for my computer. If you want a free Windows 10 license then upgrading the way you describe is the only option. Once Windows 10 has been successfully activated you can then do a clean install on the new SSD. 1
Gatt Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Got all our devices here updates to Windows 10 including an old HP dc5800 and dc7700. Performance seems better on them though not by much.
cookie_monster Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Got all our devices here updates to Windows 10 including an old HP dc5800 and dc7700. Performance seems better on them though not by much. How long did the upgrades take roughly?
Ephelyon Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Does anyone know how to get rid of the annoying built-in app shortcuts when using a redirected Start Menu?
cookie_monster Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Well first impressions are that its an instant improvement over 8.1
Gatt Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 How long did the upgrades take roughly? About an hour ish.. 1
sted Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Its appering in the Windows update history "Upgrade to windows 10 pro" and failed? No idea why? both of mine did that one i used media creation tool the other i had to remove sql server for it to work
cookie_monster Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Did I read somewhere that now I've ran an upgrade I can now get the ISO/USB from somewhere in future to run a clean install? If so do I need a new software key?
Arthur Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) Did I read somewhere that now I've ran an upgrade I can now get the ISO/USB from somewhere in future to run a clean install? You need the Media Creation Tool to download the ISO... www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 If so do I need a new software key? No key required. Microsoft know which PCs have been upgraded so activate them automatically as soon as they are connected to the Internet. If you are prompted to enter a product key, click the Skip button. Edited August 2, 2015 by Arthur 3
newpersn Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 That was painless. Took about 45mins. Order a new SSD now so that should be here next week. Then I will try to install Windows 10 on that. All drivers are fine. I got a unknown against my HP Deskjet 3520 but it prints fine.
JRowley Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 You need the Media Creation Tool to download the ISO... www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 No key required. Microsoft know which PCs have been upgraded so activate them automatically as soon as they are connected to the Internet. If you are prompted to enter a product key, click the Skip button. This isn't correct, the license is linked to the disk you upgraded to Windows 10 on, not the machine. I wasted a large chunk of my day trying to clean install 10 to a new drive even going as far as to contact Microsoft about why it wasn't activating and that was the reason. So the only option is to install your most recent OS which you have a product key for (in my case Windows 8) and then upgrade from there, I used the media I created initially.
Arthur Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 This isn't correct, the license is linked to the disk you upgraded to Windows 10 on, not the machine. Are you sure? If the licence was only linked to the HDD or SSD you install Windows 10 on that would mean you could upgrade the motherboard, CPU, RAM etc. without affecting the activation or needing to buy a new Windows licence. Previous versions of Windows have always used a combination of hardware to identify PCs when it comes to activation. You are right that you would need to upgrade from your current Windows OS (7 or 8.x) in order to claim the free Windows 10 licence.
JRowley Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Are you sure? If the licence was only linked to the HDD or SSD you install Windows 10 on that would mean you could upgrade the motherboard, CPU, RAM etc. without affecting the activation or needing to buy a new Windows licence. Previous versions of Windows have always used a combination of hardware to identify PCs when it comes to activation. You are right that you would need to upgrade from your current Windows OS (7 or 8.x) in order to claim the free Windows 10 licence. I upgraded my current Windows 8.1 installation to 10, created the media, installed a clean copy of Windows 10 to my new SSD and it didn't activate. I then spent 2 hours with a service contact at Microsoft who remoted in and finally confirmed to me that it wouldn't activate because the license is linked to the original drive and the clean install will only activate on the same drive that I originally upgraded to 10 on. I waited like 18 hours and it didn't activate, so I can't imagine I did anything wrong. I don't think it means that the license is only linked to the drive in that sense. Just that you can't move it to another drive in addition to the other constraints. This only applies to the upgrade to Windows 10 and the clean install. Sorry I should have clarified, when I said "not the machine", I meant you can't just move the license around within the machine, not that the license isn't linked to the machine at all, it still is. Edited August 3, 2015 by JRowley
cookie_monster Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Right so I'd have to run the factory restore of 8.1 from the recovery partition and then run a Windows 10 upgrade?
BassTech Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Both my machines activated. Have extracted the windows 10 keys, not sure if these can be used for a clean install. I also noticed once Windows 10 install is complete, there is am express settings button and a small custom settings link below, the express setting basically means lots of your data, including browsing history, is sent to Microsoft. They can, but only on the same hardware - I believe if you change your processor/mobo then you'll need to purchase a new Windows 10 key, or you'd need to clean install 8/8.1, re-upgrade it to 10 and then finally format the drive and clean-install 10. Edited August 3, 2015 by BassTech
JRowley Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Right so I'd have to run the factory restore of 8.1 from the recovery partition and then run a Windows 10 upgrade? Can you restore to a different drive? If not you'll need to make/get 8.1 media.
newpersn Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 So I'm better off imaging my current set up to my SSD and then by using the recovery options in windows 10 to start fresh?
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