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Gatt

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We'll look seriously at W9 once the 1st Service Pack is released. ;)

 

MS don't do Service Packs anymore - so you;ll be wating a long time :p

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I'm using 8.1 right now and have been for ages, I love it. Its fast, easy and I spend most of my time in Desktop mode and rarely use Metro apps (Only use Mail and Calendar)

 

I suppose the point of computers in school is to teach the students how they work, how can we train the next generation if they learn in W7 and get to a job and they are using W9, I don't think it is up to us to say "nah" because we don't like it. We are all employed to assist teaching & learning.

 

Looking at the BYOD devices our students bring in, its over 50% apple now so I think the next generation of users will be using Mac OS more likely ;)

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If it integrates Office 365 accounts into the OS we'll be very interested, especially for mobile users

 

even better if with windows 9 server you could fill in an office 365 field with their username and all the end user need to do to set up onedrive/office/email is give it their password

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nobody saw coming? since server 08r2 went x64 only im surprised win7 or 8 wasn't a 64 bit only os ive been expecting it for a while
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zag

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If it integrates Office 365 accounts into the OS we'll be very interested, especially for mobile users

 

A massive +1 from me on this.

 

I can't believe we still have to authenticate multiple times even if you log in with Office 365 accounts on older MS operating systems.

 

Its a no brainer to me to move towards their beloved subscription fee future.

 

All our staff and students have Office 365 accounts so why do I need active directory any more?

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Has anyone seen the following article? :)

 

Report: Windows 9 Might Not Work on 32-Bit Computers

128-bit computers? Really? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

Future-proofing into the era where DDR4 is commercially available and widely used?

What it may be is that it won't be separate versions but a 128-bit capable OS that is simply limited to 64bit if you have a 64 bit processor (much like the current limitations of 32bit programs running on a 64bit OS) but still keeps the game open for future upgrades?

 

I'm a little surprised at the no 32-bit rumour, though. As much as it's something I expected to happen at some point (and if you've got a new PC in the last 5 years it's probably x64) I didn't expect it from MS just yet.

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They would be stupid to pull the 32bit switch now after releasing so many 32bit only tablets into the market. Not saying they won't do that but they would be stupid to. I think most of the Office365 integration stuff is not a limitation of the OS but a reflection of the absolute shambles they have made behind the scenes with authentication to do with 365 and live, they wanted to separate them but just ended up hobbeling both of them. Again, a possibly good idea but implemented thoughtlessly and carelessly.
unixman_again

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Looking at the BYOD devices our students bring in, its over 50% apple now so I think the next generation of users will be using Mac OS more likely ;)

For BYOD we're seeing 57% iOS and 29% Android, Win7 6%, Win8 4.5% and Mac OS X 1.2%. - M$ is on the way out :wave:

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For BYOD we're seeing 57% iOS and 29% Android, Win7 6%, Win8 4.5% and Mac OS X 1.2%. - M$ is on the way out :wave:

 

Thats an amazing statistic!

 

We don't allow Phones to be put on our BYOD, but I suspect it would be very iPhone and Android heavy.

 

At least 50% of the laptops brought in to me are Apple ones now. It really does say a lot about the future.

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nobody saw coming? Since Server 08 R2 went x64 only I'm surprised win7 or 8 wasn't a 64-bit only OS I've been expecting it for a while

I wasn't surprised at all to see 32-bit editions of Windows 7 and 8 because there must be a lot of businesses that still need to run legacy 16-bit apps. Microsoft also needed an OS that ran on Intel's x86 (32-bit-only) tablets.

 

I would like to see Microsoft stop making 32-bit OSs, but it's not going to happen anytime soon IMO. Certainly not with Windows 9.

 

The fact that Windows Server OSs are only available in 64-bit editions is irrelevant.

 

For BYOD we're seeing 57% iOS and 29% Android, Win7 6%, Win8 4.5% and Mac OS X 1.2%. MS is on the way out

No Chromebooks? :confused: :)

 

Future-proofing into the era where DDR4 is commercially available and widely used?

There's zero need to future-proof since we haven't even reached the limits of 64-bit OSs or processors yet. Whoever wrote that article is insane.

 

In principle, a 64-bit microprocessor can address 16 exabytes of memory. In practice, it is less than that.

 

For example, the AMD64 architecture as of 2011 allowed 52 bits for physical memory and 48 bits for virtual memory. These limits allow memory sizes of 4 PiB (4 × 1024^5 bytes) and 256 TiB (256 × 1024^4 bytes), respectively. A PC cannot currently contain 4 petabytes of memory (due to the physical size of the memory chips) but AMD envisioned large servers, shared memory clusters, and other uses of physical address space that might approach this in the foreseeable future, and the 52-bit physical address provides ample room for expansion while not incurring the cost of implementing 64-bit physical addresses. Similarly, the 48-bit virtual address space was designed to provide more than 65,000 times the 32-bit limit of 4 GB (4 × 1024^3 bytes), allowing room for later expansion without incurring the overhead of translating full 64-bit addresses. (Source)

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I wonder when we will be seeing the next version of Windows Server. I really do hope when Threshold comes out it brings a server with it. Why does a server need a metro interface? Not as if anyone is going to use a touch screen with a server.
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I wonder when we will be seeing the next version of Windows Server.

Probably the 30th too?

 

Why does a server need a metro interface? Not as if anyone is going to use a touch screen with a server.

For VDI, RDS, DaaS and RDPing into your servers from a phone, tablet or touchscreen laptop.

 

Due to the complexities of Microsoft licensing, it's often far cheaper to make a server OS look like a client OS by installing the "Desktop Experience" feature, than it is to use a client OS. :)

 

On a related note, organizations are currently warming up to trend of using Windows Server as a VDI OS to avoid all the licensing complexities associated with using Windows client OSs for VDI. Doing so is like delivering 1:1 RDSH servers, and it means that your only required user license is a Remote Desktop CAL. You don't have to worry about a VDA license for devices, SA for primary client devices, which devices are corporate-owned, which are used on company property, or any of that crap. Sure, you need to have the Datacenter platform license for Windows, but when you add it all up, you’re looking at a substantial reduction in cost and headaches.

 

DaaS providers are going this route, too, since there’s no SPLA license for Windows client OSes. So when you buy a persistent desktop solution from a DaaS provider for $35/mo per user, you're probably getting a Windows Server 2008 R2 desktop dressed up to look like a Windows 7 machine. If you want to actually run Windows 7, you’re going to pay the provider about the same amount of money, but you’ll also have to go buy all your VDA licenses on top of that. (Source)

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TBH, I half expected Window 7 to be x64 only and definately expected Win 8 to go down this route with legacy apps being accomodated via virtualisation.

Still, I am very happy to hear about 365 single sign on. It's a PITA atm having several points of entry into the system adn if you ar elike us here at EduGeek who use Office 365 extensively will be a great feature and time saver.

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I don't really have any issues with windows 8 at school. There were a few grumbles from staff that had heard it sucked but didn't really know any better, so I explained to ppl that it was a cleaner, faster OS and all MS had done was got rid of the start menu that ppl didn't use much (!) and put all the icons on a start screen, which is what everybody did with the desktop anyway ... and they said "Oh, yeah!" Now they love the speed of it and don't even miss the start menu.

 

I have different start screens for groups, so that replaces custom start menus. Problem solved 😀

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There's zero need to future-proof since we haven't even reached the limits of 64-bit OSs or processors yet. Whoever wrote that article is insane.

 

Marketing rubbish. I don't think there's a defined standard on the "bitness" (yuck) of a CPU. It could be argued that the x86 has been 128bit since the release of the SSE instruction set in 1999. I think some of the more recent extensions (AVX) are 256bit and Intel are working on incorporating 512bit registers for the AVX-512 instructions...

localzuk

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They need 32 bit due to tablets. Also some enterprises have ancient pcs or netbooks.

 

That's always going to be the case then, as tablet makers have no incentive to switch to 64bit any time soon. So its a case of chicken vs egg.

tmcd35

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That's always going to be the case then, as tablet makers have no incentive to switch to 64bit any time soon. So its a case of chicken vs egg.

 

It's the same with businesses still running 16bit apps. I think it's one area Apple have right over Microsoft - forced obsolescence. It annoys me no end when I buy PC's to find BIOS instead of EFI, PS2 ports, Parallel ports, or worst of all DB-9 Serial ports. It's 2014 not 1994 for gods sake!

 

:focus:

 

I've just helped my mum buy a new laptop. Windows 8.1. I'm almost ashamed to admit I was quietly impressed by it. The Start button does make a huge, huge difference, even if it does go to the start screen instead of a menu. Still don't like having to move the mouse off screen to get to the settings. From what I've seen Win9 looks like a step in the right direction and should be the successor to Win7.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if it's 64bit only. I think we've reached the point now, even bottom of the range Celerons are 64bit as standard.

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