MkII Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Anyone had this problem? MS Desktop search has just come down on windows update, and places a small magnifying glass in the notification area. Kids have found they can access the management console from here and make changes. How nice. Turned off the notification area until we get a better fix. What were MS thinking about here? This isn't something I'd ever want installed anyway, let alone on an automatic update!!
FN-GM Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Kids have found they can access the management console from here and make changes. How nice. Love the humour there I hate that program, Microsoft should publish it on Windows/Microsoft update
Oops_my_bad Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Geez shouldn't you have like declined it in WSUS or somethin?
DMcCoy Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 It was automatically approved with my current patch only settings :|
john Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Yup just seen that today as well Thats 330 machines that need re-imaing as we need to take that off, don't want that search stuff adding into roaming profiles. Microsoft have put it on Autoupdate as an Optional Update on the main WU site but stuffed it in the WSUS main bit.
maniac Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I hate that bloody thing, all our machines got it automatically unfortunitely, now gonna be hard to get rid of it. That main problem I have with it is it doesn't work properly! Luckily our student machines already have the notification area hidden so the kids can't get to it. Can't see a useful reason for the notification area to be there, so we removed it. Mike.
MkII Posted October 24, 2007 Author Posted October 24, 2007 We had the notification area on for printing - if your job got stuck you could cancel it via the notification icon. Anyone know if MS are going to rectify this? Set it to uninstall via WSUS?
Oops_my_bad Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Strange - I haven't got this on mine but I always manually approve. Fat chance of them rectifying it - an update the other week seems to have broken something that installs client WSUS updates and antivirus engine updates on ALL our PC's here :x
maniac Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 We had the notification area on for printing - if your job got stuck you could cancel it via the notification icon. We give the students a shortcut to print manager for this, there's no harm in this as GPO restricts them and stops them doing things they shouldn't. The only useful thing we had in the system trays was the volume control, but we added a shortcut for this to the desktop. We also have the clock hidden on our student machines, as if it's there then students tend to logoff the second the clock changes to the end of lesson time, and don't wait for the teacher to end the lesson. Mike.
mullet_man Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Yeah I got this as well, I unapproved it when I found out about it but guessing its gonna install on all machines anyway cause it will have already been downloaded to the machines ready to install at the time I have set in GP.
rhyds Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 The same thing's happened here, how do I hide/disable the notification area in GPO? I so want to rain death and awfullness on microsoft at the moment...
mullet_man Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Download the ADM file for WDS and disable it from running. download.microsoft.com/download/D/2/7/D271C570-0C2F-4B8D-9A17-50750D28DBB3/DesktopSearch.adm Just in the process of adding it GP now.... 1
mullet_man Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 A way to uninstall would be more helpful though.
MkII Posted October 25, 2007 Author Posted October 25, 2007 @ Rhyds: user config > start menu and taskbar > near the bottom @TeddyKGB: MS did mess with IE7 in WSUS - so hopefully there will be similar with WDS @mullet_man: have applied that adm now. Strange how this hasn't had wider publicity yet.
CyberNerd Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Strange how this hasn't had wider publicity yet. It's got teh attention of slashdot http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/25/1230223&from=rss "The Register is reporting that the blogosphere is alight with accusations of Microsoft forcing Windows Desktop Search on networks via the 'automatic install' feature of Windows Update — even if they had configured their systems not to use the program. Once installed, the search program began diligently indexing C drives and entire networks slowed to a crawl."
wlaidlaw Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 To uninstall add the following code to your machine startup script: IF exist c:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB917013$\spuninst\spuninst.exe c:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB917013$\spuninst\spuninst.exe /quiet Note that where I have tested it the machine reboots after uninstall. Unfortunately if you have updates set to install automatically it will be reinstalled again - until you reboot then it will be removed. Until the next time the update is installed ..... argh! Declining the update within WSUS does not effect computers that have already downloaded the update... double argh! Will
mullet_man Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 @mark the adm can stop it from starting the index, but still doesn't seem to stop it starting up in the system try which is a pain.
PaulBM Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Does WDSearch appear in the Tools section of WSUS? If not, where does it lurk? I can't find it on our WSUS server, which is a good sign.
MkII Posted October 25, 2007 Author Posted October 25, 2007 @Cybernerd: nice to see wheels are starting to turn, thanks for the links @Mullet_Man: Yeah - noticed that! @wlaidlaw: Thanks a lot - deployed that now - will see how that looks next re-boot
webman Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Phew. I'm glad we don't use WSUS or Windows Update
wlaidlaw Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Just to confirm that if decline the update via WSUS the clients do eventually stop offering to install it (took 24/36 hours here). The unattended remove command I posted above will clean the machine for you. So it's not quite as bad as I first thought. Will
Michael Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 I operate a few WSUS 3.0 servers and none of them automatically approved this new WDS, although I only have specific categories which are set to automatically approve. Critical Updates, Update Rollups etc, but I do not approve Service Packs (for example). I'm not sure what WDS is now categorised as? As a temporary workaround (in theory), if you do have clients which have installed Desktop Search, you could disable the service it uses in Active Directory, until you manually remove or use a removal script to do the job. I believe the service is called "WDS" or "Windows Desktop Search", but I don't wish to find out by installing WDS! Sorry guys
srochford Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 To uninstall add the following code to your machine startup script: IF exist c:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB917013$\spuninst\spuninst.exe c:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB917013$\spuninst\spuninst.exe /quiet Note that where I have tested it the machine reboots after uninstall. Unfortunately if you have updates set to install automatically it will be reinstalled again - until you reboot then it will be removed. Until the next time the update is installed ..... argh! Declining the update within WSUS does aot effect computers that have already downloaded the update... double argh! Will Change the code to: IF exist c:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB917013$\spuninst\spuninst.exe c:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB917013$\spuninst\spuninst.exe /quiet /norestart and it won't reboot. I also stop the service before trying to uninstall it - not sure if that's necessary but it helps keep things tidy :-)
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