AshF Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 I am far too idle on these boards. Something I need to rectify. I always say "I'll spend more time on here when things calm down". I've been saying that since May.... anyone, point to the post: So today my pay review (finally) went through. It was.... not horrible. Slightly better than I expected. About an hour after I found this out I'm chased down by our personnel officer and my line manager with a slight proviso. My notice period. For my entire time there, it has been 1 month. Now, as a condition of this pay rise, it will go up to 2 months. This is assuming, of course, I accept the pay rise. I wasn't planning on leaving right now, but If I do... I forsee 2 months notice as perhaps being a bit of an albatross around my neck. My line manager is fighting for me on this one, but the PTB want to see proof that a) 2 months may be unreasonable (I don't know, is it?), and b) It may effect my ability to get a job elsewhere. If I can prove either of those points, then I might get somewhere and still get the extra money, will which will result in a couple of decent curries a month, and maybe a slightly less stressed me. So, guys and gals... how long is yours? And have you been down the same road I'm treading right now? Many thanks. I promise to be good and be more active.
bishopsgarthstockton Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Now you see, this is what i would do, find a job and fuk em off, that really does take the buscuit mate. think mine is either a term or 2 weeks are employees prepared to wait that long for us to do our notice period??
bishopsgarthstockton Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 its like there bullying you. this will be the next step the trade unions will be sorting out... I hope!?
Oops_my_bad Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Now you see, this is what i would do, find a job and fuk em off, that really does take the buscuit mate. think mine is either a term or 2 weeks Sounds good to me.. there's nothing stopping you really is there? You would have to make sure they couldn't be awkward and withhold pay though. Oh and then there's the reference etc.. :?
Guest richard Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Its one month for me here. I would if I were you go and speak to your union as they seem to be trying to pull a fast one.
GrumbleDook Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Mine is 3 months+ ... part of the deal getting my promotion. I did get 3 clauses put into the contract though ... I can leave at any point should a member of immediate family suffer a debilitating condition, there is a death or I receive a serious financial windfall ... this covers me looking after my better half, something horrible happening to someone close or winning the lottery.
SimpleSi Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 @gd If you win the lottery - you can afford to give them 3 months salary regards Simon
localzuk Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Mine is a month also. 2 months or more would be outrageous - no company would sit around waiting for you for that amount of time.
OutToLunch Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 3 weeks, although it can be shortened at the discretion of HR/the head if I am willing to lose the equivalent amount of pay to the number of weeks short notice I wish to leave - e.g 2 weeks notice, lose 1 week of final pay. Seems fair enough since I'm only likely to be leaving if something with much higher pay comes along!
GrumbleDook Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 @gd If you win the lottery - you can afford to give them 3 months salary regards Simon Yes, I have indeed always taken the view that I would donate money as a thank you for releasing my contract ... but I would just get bored at home ... I think I would end up working part time (ok, ok ... I *know* Teddy will say I do already!) for the school.
sidewinder Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Mine is a ridiculous 2 months as well I dont think theyve done it so much to make it difficult for me though, more that they realise it would take time to train a successor and they dont want me p1ssing off with tonnes of details that only I know My predecessor had the same notice period but it didnt stop him finding a new job. I think if I was able to find someone to replace me (probably the guy that works with me now) they would be a bit more flexible wih me
pallen Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 I can see why 2 months may be needed for some jobs in a school (to cover the length of terms etc) but really 2 months is a bit long. I need to work 1 months notice. If they are giving you more money, surely it should be a significant amount to cover the jobs you wont be able to take up due to the extra notice you'll have to give? I thought the standard was 1 month, but can anyone confirm this?
Andrew_C Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 A term, or some negotiated variation. Generally seen as the end of the current term. (I think: it is a very long time since I looked at my T&Cs) If someone really wants you, they'll wait.
Zombie Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Mine is the standard months notice. But I am however just a techie and we are 2 a penny. Not sure what my current IT managers notice period is. My old managers was 3 months tho!
plexer Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Have a look at your lea's pay scales and the associated periods of notice required. Normally the more senior someone is the more notice they are required to give. Stick to your guns. Ben
bossman Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 As long as i have known salaried paid staff have always had to give 1 months notice and as for weekly paid staff either 1 or two weeks. But then i don't change my jobs or positions as often as i change me socks.
crc-ict Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 My notice is 8 weeks - stipulated according to pay scale, and I am just in the bracket that has to give 8 weeks not 4 I see it as a huge millstone - as people have said, no-one will want to wait 2 months. You can almost see the interest in your application fade when you answer that question at interviews. I've been trying to move on, and I'm not getting anywhere - and I feel that the notice period is a major factor in that. But I signed the contract with those terms so I can't really grumble I suppose.
Andrew_C Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 I see it as a huge millstone - as people have said, no-one will want to wait 2 months.Nuts! Why would anyone turn down a highly skilled miracle worker who can do anything with p.poor funding just because they MAY have to wait a bit longer? This is especially true if you are staying in education; schools don't expect people to move mid-term.
laserblazer Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 And if you are moving to industry and a higher paid job, it might be worth giving up 4 weeks pay. Tell your boss that you need to start your new job in 4 weeks but that you will be happy to answer any questions after you have gone. Tell your prospective new employer that you are such a key player that your replacement would need 8 weeks to stand a chance of being able to learn the ropes.
alan-d Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 By the time you use annual leave entitlement owed to you, Time off in leiu owed and you are bound to have a nasty migrain for a couple of weeks, I'm sure you can stretch it the extra month Not that I'd condone such action of course
SpuffMonkey Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 If you're paid on a monthly basis - its hard to see how they could hold back more than a month's salary if you left...
CESIL Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 GUNS...mmmm...GUNS...shooting bang bang bang..... aaahhhh all better now! I think I need more of my pills...
GrumbleDook Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 If they take you to court for breach of contract you could end up paying back the wages to the school, plus costs, plus interest, and then include the time you have had to take off to deal with it. Some schools will do it. I know 2 people that have settled out of court as a result (moving from state school to commercial sector).
bensewell Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Standard 4 weeks notice for me. Its part of the council rules over here. I think if you're above a certain grade it moves to either 8 or 14 weeks.
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