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"Schofield, however, briefly got his own back on Hopkins after she revealed that she disliked geographical names, citing Brooklyn and London – pointing out: ‘You have a child called India."

 

[From here, as I can't load the video for some reason.]

 

FFS why do TV show keep getting idiots on?

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I may come in for some critisicm here, I do kind of agree in some degree to what she was saying.

 

Can you honestly say that when you have heard a childs name in school that you havent raised an eyebrow, rolled your eyes or thought 'I bet he/she is a little darling' ?

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I may come in for some critisicm here, I do kind of agree in some degree to what she was saying.

 

Can you honestly say that when you have heard a childs name in school that you havent raised an eyebrow, rolled your eyes or thought 'I bet he/she is a little darling' ?

 

If I don't know the child, then yes, I can say that. My judgement on their parents however is leaping around in my head all over the place! Which is also probably a bit wrong though......

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I may come in for some critisicm here, I do kind of agree in some degree to what she was saying.

 

Can you honestly say that when you have heard a childs name in school that you havent raised an eyebrow, rolled your eyes or thought 'I bet he/she is a little darling' ?

 

 

There's a difference between thinking the child may be a troublemaker but still letting them prove themselves, and just assuming the worst because of their name.

 

Although I can, with [currently] 100% accuracy, tell if a child has manners by what school they go to. [in this area... OK, if they're from one specific school, I know they have no manners from experience.]

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There's a difference between thinking the child may be a troublemaker but still letting them prove themselves, and just assuming the worst because of their name.

 

 

Very true but you are still preconceiving what that child is likely to behave like from their name, which is what the silly moo on that video was trying to get at but doing it all wrong.

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I think a child's name may tell you something about their background - I said MAYBE - but it doesn't tell you how that child has been brought up and how he or she behaves. As a parent I would never judge a child as being unsuitable for my child as a friend until I knew them.

A teacher friend of mine has just had a hysterical parent approach her because her son "isn't with his friends" next year. The boy in question IS with one of the friends he chose and the lad is perfectly fine - not very bright and a bit scruffy but caring and thoughtful. The parent revealed that it was all snobbery when she asked if he could be with Jack, because she knows Jack's parents, or Lucas, ditto, etc etc.

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My son has an unusual name so maybe I am particularly non-judgemental on this issue :)

 

I would have thought that would have made you more judgmental. I wouldn't be happy if people treated my kids differently because of their name.

 

(My future kids Godzilla and Mothra.)

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She is a vile woman.... however, I don't have children I have a furbaby and sometimes I do cringe when i hear that other dogs (specially Bull Terrier types) have names like Diesel, Tyson, Rambo and the like. But dogs are dogs and children are human being and will eventually make their own mark in life, so it has nothing to do with the name their parents had given them.
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I do cringe when i hear that other dogs (specially Bull Terrier types) have names like Diesel, Tyson, Rambo and the like.

 

[TANGENT]...and then they come out with stuff like "but Throat Ripper was always such a soppy dog, he'd never harm a fly" when their creature attacks someone's pet/child/grannie.[/TANGENT]

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As some of you have said, I agree that after hearing a name, we're likely to build an image and have an opinion on how the person is going to be - that's normal, that's human and I don't think we can help it...

 

But, you can't just instantly dismiss someone due to their name. They haven't chosen to be called that, and at the age we're talking about, it's not like they could change it even if they wanted (not that I'm saying they should). This woman is a complete idiot, and we can only hope her children realise it before they become set in her ways.

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we can only hope her children realise it before they become set in her ways.

 

That will only happen if they're allowed to mix with people with different [more sensible] opinions.

 

Which, judging by Hopkins' comments, isn't going to happen.

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That will only happen if they're allowed to mix with people with different [more sensible] opinions.

 

Which, judging by Hopkins' comments, isn't going to happen.

[sarcasm]

Children with the name "Maximillion" are unable to deviate from their parents craziness, you can tell that just from the name.

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That will only happen if they're allowed to mix with people with different [more sensible] opinions.

 

Which, judging by Hopkins' comments, isn't going to happen.

 

You've got it all wrong, the children's behaviour is based purely on their names - didn't you listen to the nice lady on the video? :p

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Not sure if I should post this but I keep thinking of:

 

 

 

In all seriousness though there are names I dont like, which make me cringe really but it never suggests anything about the child, it says more about the parents tbh rather than the child.

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meh ive got a royal name so im sorted for life!

 

on a serious note, im not sure what planet shes on, kids wont care where others come from or how they are named as they just want to play games.

 

its as we get older we form opinions on cultures, areas etc..

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I think working in Education it is hard not think of THAT child with the name but to say no they can't play with your child as they won't have done their home work is just so wrong. Loved the pointing out of the hypocrisy and the blank look on her face when they read out the list of well educated Tylers. There's only one Katie that pops into my head when I hear the name so I won't be allowing my children to play with her.

 

More annoying is why is she writing a column and why is she being brought on to TV. She is a total non entity!

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It has to be said that when I was teaching, any child named 'Jack' was almost invariably trouble - disruptive, rude, lazy etc. That is not to say that the Connors and Marks and Pauls were any BETTER just that proportionally, anyone named 'Jack' in any of my classes was always trouble. If there were 3 Jacks in a class, at least 2 of them would be in detention regularly.

 

I have issues with weird names - WHATEVER a person names their child is largely selfish as the child has no say in their name and it is based solely on the preferences of the parent. Same with pets - my cat is called Enzo because I thought it was cool. As a cat he doesn't much give a hoot - I don't expect he even knows that the 'Enzo' sound that comes out of my mouth refers to his name as I don't imagine Cats have a concept like 'Names' - they identify each other by scent. I was called Alexandra because my mum was in the Queen Alexandra Royal Army Nursing Corps. I had no say in my name and have been plagued by gender confusion issues ever since as people generally refuse to call me anything other than 'Alex' despite my best efforts. I actually prefer to be known by my unique Avatar name as I chose this for myself. Then there are the people that take a 'standard' name and spell it strangely in an effort to be 'original' therefore guaranteeing that your poor hard-done-by child will never ever find a piece of personalised Tat in a gift shop with their name on it and whilst all the 'Emma's and 'Simon's of the world are parading their personalised pens/pencils/rubbers/bags/coasters/dinosaur moneyboxes/badges/fridge magnets/door signs at school, your child will be bitterly cursing the extra Es Is and Ys they have been saddled with. Little Kayden/Kaiden/Kaidon/Keyden/whatever with their unique name will go for a job interview in 20 years time where the manager interviewing them can't work out how to pronounce their name and they will be lumbered with the embarrassing dilemma of 'Do I correct my potential future boss?'.

 

On the flipside, language, names and spellings evolve - I don't know of a single person called 'Mercutio' today (although I'm certain there is one), and 'Faye' and 'Gaynor' and 'Gay' are largely out of favour so it is difficult to say exactly what constitutes a 'normal' name as the 'Top X' names change and evolve. A unique name is something that sets a child apart from others - so whilst a class might have 6 'Olivia's, there will only be one 'bWEFBHJswfjk' (pronounced Clare).

 

Personally, I think we should all do like the Egyptians - have a 'Childhood name' then an 'Adult Name' - the childhood name is picked for us but we get to pick our own Adult names.

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