Rawns Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 My desktop PC is connected to my router in the front room via N-Range wireless, but I'm tempted to get a network cable down. The question is, I'm not sure how best to lay it so it's hidden and out of the way. I live in the middle of a three story flat so don't have floorboards to feed the cable under. The wife has also stressed that she does not want to see the cable tacked along the top of the skirting board, or those "ugly" plastic cable holders, so I'm running out of ideas of how best to get the cable down. I've tried Ethernet power adapters before but found them next to useless even though the wiring is only 5 years old. Any suggestions greatly appreciated! Floor-plan:
Michael Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 You may be better off trying another wireless adapter first and if possible, move your router as high up as possible. Changing the channel it broadcasts on can also make all the difference too.
LosOjos Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Do you have skirting boards? You could see if you have enough space behind them to hide the wire. I've done it with speaker cable but never anything as thick as Cat5... Also consider your reasons for wanting a wired connection. If your wireless connection is reliable then the only benefit to a wired connection would be increased bandwidth, which in turn is only useful if you access files on your main PC from other devices on the network. Don't make more work for yourself just for the sake of having a physical connection Edited March 18, 2013 by LosOjos 1
Michael Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 In saying that, if ever you decorate in future I would recommend installing Ethernet cabling. Smart TVs are all the rage and work better than with a wireless connection.
plexer Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 If you have white skirting you could top it with some trunking from the d-line range? Ben
Sunnyknight Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) @Rawns Not a hard job to be quite honest. As Los said, skirting boards are the way, it just depends on the thickness. I've faced this situation, and here's what i did. Ripped off the skirting boards, checked the thickness of the board against the cat5, slowly, cut out a trench within the board. This can be done with a chisel or if you don't have one, a straight screwdriver (would not recommend). Cat5 needs to be either LIGHTLY tacked or taped onto the board and with a steady hand + ear put back against the wall. DO NOT push the board too fast, you need to hear for a slight tkkk sound (meaning the cat5 is touching the wall). If you've done it right, it should sit perfectly and you will not be able to tell the difference. If i'm quite honest, this will take you in excess of 2 days, with a lot of patience required. Alternative method done by a family member + me helping him. Behind the plaster, but that's if you can't find a solution any other way. Got loads of other ideas, but this is the simplest. Holla if you'd like more advice. Sunny Edit: You could also cut out a trench within the wall, CAREFULLY, DO NOT HIT ANY ELECTRIC CABLES! and line it up along there. Skirting board right over and jobs a gooden. That'll take about a day if you're quick and accurate. It's an easy job, stop stressing:) Edited March 18, 2013 by Sunnyknight 1
saundersmatt Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Oddly that's exactly the same room layout as the flat I used to live in. I did as everyone else has suggested and ran Cat5 behind the skiring boards following the layout attached. I did do it at the same time as removing the skirtings to fit hardwood flooring though, so it wasn't a big job given that I was removing skirtings anyway. Matt 1
Rawns Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 Do you have skirting boards? You could see if you have enough space behind them to hide the wire. I've done it with speaker cable but never anything as thick as Cat5... Also consider your reasons for wanting a wired connection. If your wireless connection is reliable then the only benefit to a wired connection would be increased bandwidth, which in turn is only useful if you access files on your main PC from other devices on the network. Don't make more work for yourself just for the sake of having a physical connection Exactly that. The wireless connection is fine and I have no problems with it. Average connection is 180-200Mbps? Thing is, next to the router is my media center and NAS. The reason behind a wired connection is transfer speeds between PC and NAS. I play a lot of PC games online too and can't help but think that a wired connection will help just that little bit more.
plexer Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Not a hard job just rip off all your skirting board - haha lol Ben 1
Rawns Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 Annoyingly, the front room was only decorated 6 months ago. I like the idea of tucking the skirting board in the skirting board but can't help but think it's a bit OTT for installing a single Cat5 cable (however if it was being removed, I would totally do that at the same time). Wonder if pinning it around the outside wall would work? Thats how the Sky dish went up. (Dish round the back where the PC is, cable around the outside wall and in by the router... Maybe I'll just stick with the Wi-Fi connection. I'm hoping we wont being the flat too much longer so will work it into the plan of DIY in our next place.
plexer Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 If you got some exterior grade black cat5 then you could do it that way. Ben
Sunnyknight Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 @Rawns I like the idea of tucking the skirting board in the skirting board What? lol Outside wall would look, not very nice (just being honest). Taking off skirting boards isn't hard, i don't understand why you think it's OTT. It's a simple days job. It's the trenching that takes the time and planning. Either way, it's the neatest, which is what i believe you're looking for. Sunny
Rawns Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 What? lol Thinking and typing two different things I think: I like the idea of tucking the cable in the skirting board! Outside wall would look, not very nice (just being honest). Taking off skirting boards isn't hard, i don't understand why you think it's OTT. It's a simple days job. It's the trenching that takes the time and planning. Either way, it's the neatest, which is what i believe you're looking for. Sunny True, our block of flats is similar to this: Being in the middle flat, the front room has the yellow cladding on it, and the brick wall is on the bedroom front. When we had Sky installed, we had a choice of black or white cable. The white blends in nicely on the beige cladding and stands out a mile on the dark bricks, and vice versa with the black cable. Maybe best to avoid a second cable on the front of the house. When I say OTT, I mean in the context of my wi-fi existing connection being acceptable, can I really be arsed to move all the furniture in the front room, remove the skirting boards, chisel canals out for the cable to go in, lay the cable, put the skirting back on the walls, move the furniture back, and then repeat the process all over again in the bedroom and then the spare room for what will be an small gain with transferring files from my NAS to PC. I agree it does sound the neatest option and something I will do when we move into a bigger place, but I think for the moment I'll just remain happy with the wireless connection I have.
CHR1S Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 I ran a run (hmm) of CAT5e externally, this over a few years denatured and failed. *IF* you do go external, use the right cable and/or trunking.
plexer Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Taking off skirting boards isn't hard, i don't understand why you think it's OTT. It's a simple days job. It's the trenching that takes the time and planning. Either way, it's the neatest, which is what i believe you're looking for. Sunny Depends on the age of the house and how the skirting board has been fixed tbh. Ben
dhicks Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Any suggestions greatly appreciated! Would stripping the plastic from the cable so it was a flat ribbon and then shielding it with foil work? This, I hasten to add, is simply an idea, test before you go pulling your carpet up to fit such a cable...
SpuffMonkey Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Depends on the age of the house and how the skirting board has been fixed tbh. Ben Too bloody right - if I tried to get my skirtings off - most of the plasterwork would come with it! You could always get some flat cable 20m FLAT Cat5e Ethernet/Patch Cable - GREY: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics - easier to hide under carpets (if you have them) 1
Sunnyknight Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Too bloody right - if I tried to get my skirtings off - most of the plasterwork would come with it! You could always get some flat cable 20m FLAT Cat5e Ethernet/Patch Cable - GREY: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics - easier to hide under carpets (if you have them) @SpuffMonkey I never even gave a thought to flat cat5e! That would make life so much easier, if the skirting was to come off. In regards to the skirting coming off with plaster, that's not a serious problem, but one to be semi-concerned about. Just goes to show how bad your plaster is! Anyway, i think Rawns is gonna leave it as it is, so i'll leave him be. If you need any other ideas Rawns, or anyone else does, gimme a shout. Sunny
CESIL Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Why not try powerline adapters...I have a pair here and my TV runs through them really well.
twin--turbo Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 take skirting off, Score along lower 2" of plaster board Break off lower 2" of plaster board Place cable in new cavity in wall Reaffix skirting. Done. Rob
truebluesteve Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Why not try powerline adapters...I have a pair here and my TV runs through them really well. Yep every time! I'm a ex sparky and ripping the skirting boards off can be a right pita! The thing that will determine how much mess and making good you do is what the skirting boards are fixed to and with what. Big nails into a brick wall can be very messy whereas gripfill onto plasterboard not so! Anyway I use power line adapters here and they are great and will do up to 200 meg.
2097 Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Remember fiber is a LOT thinner I also have a couple of 1gB fiber cards that are going on eBay soon
plexer Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 I've tried Ethernet power adapters before but found them next to useless even though the wiring is only 5 years old. Any suggestions greatly appreciated! Says he's tried them Ben 1
truebluesteve Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Says he's tried them Ben That will teach me to skim read too quickly :-) Then external grade cat5 outside the house. If its run nicely and clipped properly then it will look fine
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