Licensing Questions Thread, Converting to an academy? Do you need to relicense all your software..... in Technical; I know that a number of software companies are forcing schools to re-licence their software on conversion to academy status.
18th February 2011, 04:39 PM #1
Converting to an academy? Do you need to relicense all your software.....
I know that a number of software companies are forcing schools to re-licence their software on conversion to academy status.
I thought it might be good to start a list of who is insisting on this.
Apparently (though not confirmed myself) Boardworks insist on a new licence.
Feedback would be good... That extra Academy money will soon be spent on software by the looks of it.
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18th February 2011, 04:41 PM #2
I contacted boardworks and was told we do not need to re license
However Capita would like a hefty sum in the region of £16,000 and Ten Ticks want £200
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robk (18th February 2011), teejay (18th February 2011)
18th February 2011, 04:49 PM #3
Your MIS system, possibly Adobe but depends on your licence and that's about all I've found so far.
Microsoft, Corel, Symantec, CA, Dell, Oracle all have no problems transfering the licence. Yes, don't forget you have to transfer your hardware as well (I believe this will impact the lifetime warranty on HP switches, haven't had that confirmed properly yet though)
I think we should have a 'name and shame' list of the companies that are seeing £ signs from this rather than supporting education in these tough times
We will remember who you are when times get better...
18th February 2011, 04:57 PM #4
Adobe told me we were fine.
I had to ring every supplier at the beginning of January. It was hard to find some of them. Some just didn't exist any more.
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teejay (18th February 2011)
18th February 2011, 04:59 PM #5
So, did you find any apart from your MIS supplier who wanted money off you?
Originally Posted by reggiep
18th February 2011, 05:00 PM #6
No just capita and ten ticks.
18th February 2011, 05:29 PM #7
In this case say to capita you re moving sure that'll sort things out
18th February 2011, 05:37 PM #8
Regarding Capita: Academy conversion worries [Solved]
If your school bought SIMS as a single site license / directly supported by Capita, changing to an Academy costs £200. If you didn't buy SIMS / got a cheap deal via the LA, then it'll cost you because you no longer qualify for the LA discount.
Any school who thinks they'll get more money (at year end, after paying bills etc) by moving to an Academy* is rather shortsighted. You get more independence.
*that's "become Academy = extra wonga", rather than the "become leader of local Academy, pillage other schools funding when they join our academy" that certain schools who shall remain nameless have been doing.
Last edited by pete; 18th February 2011 at 05:41 PM.
18th February 2011, 06:45 PM #9
From snippets and research I have picked up regarding changes to becoming an academy really come down to wanting your own flexibility and ability to be less dependant on services supplied by the LA. If your wanting to have huge pots of money then academy isn't the cash cow you have been looking for.
With things like having to provide your own transport as well as payroll etc then you could actually be more out of pocket then your current budget.
18th February 2011, 07:34 PM #10
It really depends on the school, some will hardly benefit financially, others who are heavily top-sliced by the LEA will benefit greatly.
18th February 2011, 07:49 PM #11
As well as sometimes being awkward to transfer licenses across, converting to an academy can be a very convenient time to get out of any agreements that you may be signed into - we had one or two silly agreements that had been signed in the past that we worked our way out of, because the previous school legally didn't exist anymore so the agreement was void as a result. Had one or two companies challenge this, but they've all given up now.
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teejay (18th February 2011)
18th February 2011, 07:56 PM #12
That's a very good point maniac, I have a couple of contracts in my sights...
18th February 2011, 07:57 PM #13
I spent 2 days calling about 30 different companies this week, asking whether licenses transfer or not. I will post the list and what they say at some point when I get a chance.
The end result basically was that most either transfer or simply want notification.
The only ones that need re-buying were SIMS .net and as far as I can see, Adobe stuff (academic licenses are non-transferrable according to their website).
19th February 2011, 12:58 AM #14
Having recently called HP about the status of a warrenty (whether switch I got was UK stock or not) they told me that the source of the switch didn't matter and that all they neede to do was trace it back. Also the warrenty transfers with the switch regardless of who it transfers too.
Originally Posted by teejay
20th February 2011, 05:08 PM #15
Yes, I've never had to prove where I got an HP switch from when claiming under their lifetime warranty. The fibre converters on the old 4108 and 2524 switches were forever going wrong, but each and every time HP sent out new ones with no hassle at all, never even asked for serial numbers a lot of the time.
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