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Yes i noticed this recently and thought that someone had changed some view/start settings then realised its on everyone i update, I just sigh and go with it but like you it does seem better but not sure why they include it in a security update.

I'll have a look at installing 6.9 as could really do with upgrading the PC its installed on to 25H2 but i couldn't find the installer but will email their support for it

100% didn't work for me as 6.0 needs PowerShell 2.0 and windows 25H2 doesn't have it and now way to enable or reinstall it. ✅ More detail 🔹 Windows 11 23H2 Includes PowerShell 2.0 as an optional feature You can enable it via: Windows Features DISM / PowerShell commands ✅ This is why Net2 Lite works on your 23H2 system 🔹 Windows 11 25H2 (and newer builds) ❌ PowerShell 2.0 is fully removed Not just disabled — the files are gone from the OS Cannot be: Installed Enabled Restored with ZIP or EXE ✅ What this means for you Version PS 2.0 Net2 Lite 6.00 23H2 ✅ Available ✅ Works 25H2 ❌ Removed ❌ Breaks ✅ Final recommendation

My version was 6.0 maybe 6.9 does work? did you encounter any PowerShell errors when installing Net2? as that is what i encountered and no workaround fixed it.

Yes, I was thinking along similar lines in preparation. However, my sticking point is that our current domain was previously registered for an education Google Workspace many years ago by someone who didn’t fully understand what they were doing. I’ve been trying to regain access and set it up properly from scratch, but despite numerous calls and emails, I’ve been unable to resolve the issue and seem to be stuck in limbo. I know others on here who have had similar problems too.

As a Microsoft school without Google Workspace, I assume that once this policy comes into effect, a staff Google account will be required to access YouTube. Would individual staff members need to complete age verification themselves, or would these accounts be recognised as adult accounts and automatically verified? If individual verification is required, I would be uncomfortable asking staff to provide personal information for this purpose. Data breaches occur regularly, even with large companies, and Google would not necessarily be exempt—particularly if this creates a new target for hackers. I did attempt to set up Google Workspace for the school some time ago. However, as our domain was previously registered over a decade ago by someone else, I was unable to complete the setup. Despite multiple support calls and emails, the issue wasn’t resolved, and the support experience was disappointing. In preparation for these potential changes, I plan to try again to set up Google Workspace so that we at least have the option to create managed staff accounts if needed. I assume that staff showing videos to pupils under 16 would still be allowed in principle, but the practical access arrangements are currently unclear. EDIT: Copilot answer below, without more technical guidance it seems its up in the air whether you will need a Google account or not. Hopefully the government will explain sooner rather than later so everyone without a Google account/workspace can plan better and be ready. Copilot Short answer: probably yes, you’ll still be able to use YouTube in school, but it’s not guaranteed you’ll be able to do it without signing in—and the exact rules haven’t been confirmed yet. Here’s the situation as it stands: ✅ What we know so far The UK plans to ban under‑16s from using major social media platforms, including YouTube, from around Spring 2027. [gov.uk], [time.com] This ban is aimed at children’s accounts and access, not at adults such as teachers. [gov.uk] Platforms will be required to introduce strong age‑verification systems (e.g. ID, facial estimation, etc.) for users. [bleepingcomputer.com] 👍 What this likely means for you as a teacher You (as an adult) should still be allowed to use YouTube. Showing videos for teaching purposes is unlikely to be banned in principle. There may even be educational exemptions or workarounds, but these haven’t been fully defined yet. ⚠️ The key uncertainty (important for schools) What isn’t clear yet is how access will technically work: 1. Access without signing in Currently, you can watch most YouTube videos without logging in. In future, platforms may: Require sign‑in to prove you’re over 16, or Only require verification for restricted or flagged content 👉 This part has not been confirmed yet. 2. Age verification for staff If sign‑in becomes required: You may need a verified Google account Verification could involve ID, credit card, or AI age estimation [redact.dev] 3. Impact on classrooms Potential issues schools could face: Embedded YouTube videos breaking Needing shared/managed staff accounts Restrictions from school filtering/safeguarding policies ✅ Things that are clearer YouTube Kids is expected to remain accessible and is not included in the ban. [time.com] The law is focused on protecting children, not stopping adults accessing content. [gov.uk] The government has said children will still be able to access online learning resources, though it hasn’t explained how that applies to YouTube specifically. [gov.uk] ✅ Bottom line Yes – you will almost certainly still be able to show YouTube videos as a teacher. But – you may not be able to do it anonymously: You might need to sign in You might need a verified account 💡 Practical advice (for now) Start thinking about: Backup video platforms (e.g. BBC Bitesize, Oak National Academy) Downloading or embedding videos differently Testing YouTube Kids for younger learners

Yes i tried a lot of ways to get it working on 25H2 and no joy, wasted half a day so went back to 23H2.

I have version Net2 Lite: 6.00.7619.6120 with only a few doors on it and approx. 100 users and works well still. Just to note I tried to install this version on a Win11-25H2 PC and it fails (PowerShell errors), Version 6 can only be installed on Win11-23H2 or previous Win11 versions . Will look at possible upgrade routes in the summer but everything works fine with version 6 on Win11-23H2

Same here, whether its a config change, new image, package etc. i can apply it instantly on test PC's and see and test the changes before my eyes and confident everything works then can send that out with more confidence then "hope that's applied or ill see in the morning hopefully"

I use BCX Network Management Tools alongside other MDM solutions for non-Windows devices. Touch wood, there’s been little to no downtime—settings apply instantly and packages are pushed out in real time. Day-to-day management is simple, quick, and easy, with full off-site access and control. Everything runs on A1 licenses, so there’s no need for A3, resulting in significant cost savings as well.

I find myself thinking about this from time to time and feel like I probably should adopt it—mainly to keep up with new technology and the benefits it brings. However, I then hear about so many negatives that it starts to seem not worth it, especially as I can manage the estate without Intune and in my instance do not see it as a positive but just something that will add issues and problems compared to my current manual processes. There are definite advantages to not using it. Being hands-on with devices allows you to carry out tasks more directly and gives you greater flexibility. I imagine Intune becomes more of a necessity when estates grow larger and there aren’t enough technicians to manage everything manually, so pushing changes remotely makes sense. That said, I can also see how frustrating it can be for end users when things don’t work as expected, changes take time to apply, or updates don’t push correctly. I consider myself lucky to be able to make changes in real time, test them immediately, and walk away from a PC knowing everything is working properly and confident i can apply that to my estate.

first thin I'm gonna try before looking at drivers is do the below as Advised by Copilot (no need to laugh 😂) May be a quick and easy fix before looking at Drivers etc. 👍 Practical next step (high confidence fix direction) Focus on: 1. Power / USB behaviour (MOST important) Disable: USB selective suspend “Allow computer to turn off this device” This alone fixes a lot of cases like yours ✅ Method 1 — Power Plan (main setting) Steps: Press Start → type Control Panel → open it Go to: Hardware and Sound → Power Options Click: Change plan settings (for your active plan) Click: Change advanced power settings In the list, expand: USB settings → USB selective suspend setting Set: Plugged in: Disabled (and On battery: Disabled if laptops) Click Apply → OK Other Methods also below advised after doing Method 1 ✅ Method 2 — Device Manager (VERY important as well) Do this too — it often matters more than the above. Steps: Right-click Start → Device Manager Expand: Universal Serial Bus controllers For each of these (you’ll have several): USB Root Hub Generic USB Hub USB Hub (USB 3.0 / USB 3.1 / USB 3.2) 👉 For each one: Right-click → Properties Go to Power Management tab Untick: Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power Click OK ✅ Method 3 — (Optional but good) Registry / GPO style enforcement If you want to force it across multiple machines: Registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USB Look for or create: DisableSelectiveSuspend (DWORD) = 1 🔹 Then reboot 🔁 After making changes Reboot the PC Test again (ideally reproduce the issue) 🧠 Why this matters (in your case) Selective suspend allows Windows to: Put USB ports into low-power mode Sometimes fail to wake them properly This can cause: Dead keyboard (no lights ✅) Port stops responding ✅ Works instantly in another port ✅ 👉 Exactly matches your symptoms. ✅ What success looks like After disabling: Keyboard should never completely die You might still see minor glitches, but not full port lockups

I got a feeling then that Windows probably updating it with a driver update that's not on your image and probably will download again in future. Ill look further into it on Monday especially as i have all the same motherboards mainly across school

one of the same motherboards as me. I'm wondering if Windows has updated one of the drivers

Yes all Stone/Converge PCs with 2 different ASUS Prime Motherboards. probably going to have to look at logs etc. but was hoping someone else had an issue and fixed it before i start looking 😂

Keyboard Crashes Has anyone experienced issues with keyboards crashing on computers recently? Over the past two weeks, a few machines (Windows 11 23H2 and 25H2) have had keyboards suddenly stop working completely. The Num Lock light doesn’t respond etc., and the keyboard becomes totally unresponsive. However, as soon as the keyboard is plugged into a different USB port, it starts working again without any issues (apart from a couple of times) Just checking if others have encountered something similar before I start investigating further.

What happens though when you see violations, misuse etc. as my last post above?

I’m trying to gather more information from schools that apply web filtering to staff devices when they are used offsite. What happens to the logs, violations, and blocked pages that appear in your filtering reports? Are any violations or instances of inappropriate use escalated further, and if so, to whom? Who determines what constitutes inappropriate use — is this decided by the IT department, or by another role responsible for reviewing reports and logs? I’m also interested in understanding monitoring practices: Do any schools actively monitor staff devices offsite using software (for example, tools like Securus that can capture screenshots of violations)? Who has access to potentially sensitive information gathered, such as browsing logs or monitored activity? For example, if a user accesses online banking, NHS services, personal health information, or general shopping, who is able to view or handle that data? In addition, I’d like to understand how this is communicated to staff: What kind of wording or policies are staff asked to agree to regarding offsite filtering and monitoring? How clearly do these policies explain what data may be captured and how it is used? My assumption is that where offsite filtering and monitoring applies, personal use of school devices may be discouraged or not permitted at all, given that any activity could be logged by the school or IT department — even if that use is infrequent. Also, for staff who are issued mobile devices, are these subject to the same filtering and monitoring controls when used offsite? Has anyone created a policy/agreement that they can share that they ask their staff to sign

Interesting reading Schools ‘expected’ to use government route to buy MIS from 2027 https://schoolsweek.co.uk/schools-expected-to-use-government-route-to-buy-mis-from-2027/

A few benefits off the top of my head are things like being able to search for resources that might otherwise be blocked, which avoids staff needing to submit filtering requests once they’re back in school and allows them to complete these tasks more easily. As staff aren’t required to work in the evenings, I also don’t want to put unnecessary barriers in the way and risk losing goodwill over small frustrations, as that can sometimes result in staff simply not bothering to do the additional work. There’s also normal day-to-day personal use such as booking holidays, managing finances, and the usual odd personal tasks while using the laptop, although the vast majority of usage is still school-related work.

Anyone just rely on a school AUP for staff using standalone laptops at home, covering acceptable/inappropriate use, best practice, dos and don’ts etc.? Every staff member with a standalone device signs the AUP and, when onsite, the device defaults to the staff internet policy, the same as other non-domain/non-AD devices. Historically, we’ve managed staff standalone devices this way and have never had any incidents. However, I’m now considering whether we should start introducing filtering for off-site/home use as well. I’m trying to strike a balance between: allowing staff to use the laptops without unnecessary barriers when researching or planning, and maintaining appropriate safeguarding/security measures. The head also likes the laptops to provide some personal benefit to staff, as quite a few don’t have their own devices at home, so I’m conscious of not making them overly restrictive/intrusive

Maybe on very high end specs but my spec is pretty good and all i can compare it to is a bit like a hybrid car where when you use Copilot or AI Software, a bit more processing power for a second kicks in, a fan blast and that's about it. Not noticed any real speed increase compared to a non Copilot branded PC. Marketing gimmick at best and still probably boiling a thousand kettles somewhere in the world when you use it 🤣

Agree with this as bought 2 Copilot Laptops approx. £700 inc VAT and apart from an AI logo that glows on the touchpad when you use Copilot and the fan kicking in loudly then its just a advertising gimmick. Didn't really expect much extra but very underwhelmed

I fitted new NVME's in my 64GB 300e's and at a cost of only £25 each was well worth the money to get another couple of years out of them but not all 300'e have the spare slot as in the link so I'd always open one up first to check before buying.

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