russdev Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Many moons ago I use to code (vb6 yes was that long ago) anyway coding I left behind and stopped really (apart from keeping up with some limited php) Anyway decided must get some new coding languages under belt again so logical choice is visual studio vb.net etc. But need suggestion on something else so any suggestions was thinking along lines of ruby on rails. Russ
localzuk Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I'd say c#. It is *the* current language on Windows. And it is pretty easy to pick up.
Geoff Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Ruby + Rails here. I have a couple of big thick books on the subject.
mattx Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 I was going to start some Dark Basic Stuff: http://darkbasic.thegamecreators.com/ You get some free licences if you are a school. May knock up a quick and dirty game if I get time. Thing is time, job, family, kids...Don't get much time these days....
GrumbleDook Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Esperanto? No? I'll get my coat ... it's the one with the badge "My other programming language is a hammer" on the lapel.
MicrodigitUK Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 C/C++ or Java That’s what there teaching most university computing students these days!
wesleyw Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 VB .Net, C++, c#, PHP, Python, Delphi all good and of course once you can program good in one transferring skills between them isn't too hard or at least it's never been for me lol aahhh the ego is expanding again! Wes
contink Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 At a guess, if you're looking into coding on the forums as/when they develop I'd recommend PHP... It hasn't been supplanted by ruby yet and it's pretty simple to learn..
john Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 I'll get my coat ... it's the one with the badge "My other programming language is a hammer" on the lapel. You must have a big coat rack / hook tony as you have an awful lot of coats
srochford Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 I'll get my coat ... it's the one with the badge "My other programming language is a hammer" on the lapel. You must have a big coat rack / hook tony as you have an awful lot of coats He's an awfully big man :-) Runs for the hills :-)
srochford Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 @russ - do you just want to learn because learning is good or do you have some kind of project in mind? For example, if you want to administer a network then I'd say vbscript - you're off to a headstart as you've got some VB6 and all you've got to do is get used to all the objects that are available. If you're looking at network admin and want to be a bit more futureproof then start looking at powershell - Exchange 2007 is designed to be totally managed from the command line with this and I'm sure other MS products will follow in the future. If you want flexibility then learn Perl - you can do pretty much everything with Perl (although if you're not careful, no-one else will be able to read it!) and it's also cross platform which might be important.
russdev Posted June 10, 2007 Author Posted June 10, 2007 Hi Steve Main thing is to learn as was once said to me a programmer really should be learning two new languages a year (maybe not expert in them). Got some ideas of projects to do in them.. But have had to drop programming for other things. Got some experience with powershell (was on beta program) and vbscript can do as you said just cutdown VB. Perl hmm tried learning that while back but never really got beyond very basics... Russ
PiqueABoo Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Main thing is to learn as was once said to me a programmer really should be learning two new languages a year That's not quite how it worked when I did a long stretch of professional software enginering. Languages were just a bunch of irksome new syntax you picked up when you needed a new one which was definitely not that often. It's the ever morphing APIs, techniques and platforms.. Being able to write "Hello World" in 27 languages is relatively useless compared with say, knowing how to write platform portable code, a thread-safe dll or having credible experience of a wide range of dotNet classes.
elsiegee40 Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Feeling very old... I did Pascal, Assembler and C (no + or # then!) at University and went on to program in PL/1 (with DB2 and CICS)... the SQL from DB2 is still really useful As for programming now... I haven't got a clue! :? Lin
russdev Posted June 12, 2007 Author Posted June 12, 2007 Yes but what happens when .dot goes out of fashion or gets replaced with something else. Think could of said that last post a lot better "You should learn two new languages a year so that your skills never go stale as programming languages come and go but skills to learn new ones never dies" Scott hansleman has quite good post on it... http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ProgrammerIntentOrWhatYoureNotGettingAboutRubyAndWhyItsTheTits.aspx As said this is not about job of programmer but 'personality' of programmer more. Russ
webman Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 I hate Ruby. Especially when you put it on rails. :x
elsiegee40 Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 My coding skills may be dated, but then I have no need to code anymore. However, when it comes to reading other languages to check for logic faults... I know what I'm looking for! The programmers of my day were taught to optimise their code for maximum speed and efficiency. When you were working with so little memory and slow devices, the code had to be efficient! I think there are a few big software houses nowwho could do with some training in these skills! Their code seems to assume it will be the only thing using machine resources!
Geoff Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 I hate Ruby. Especially when you put it on rails. :x Why? I find it quite elegant.
webman Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 It disagrees with me. I've tried for over a year and I just can't get it - I had all intentions of contributing to FreeMIS :? I'll stick to PHP for now
PiqueABoo Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 what happens when .dot goes out of fashion or gets replaced with something else. Fashion is really something for random bloggers and their peeing contests over who can write the world's smallest implementation of PGP on a pinhead etc. I was trying to say quite a lot of coding these days is mostly about gluing API calls together so maintaining a good working knowledge of those and gaining it for the updates they release next week is rather important. Will I hit that deadline because I knew about a class hidden away in system.diagnostics that I've used before, does exactly what I need and will save me days-weeks of frustration? Or because I know how to write "Hello World" in a really cute but cryptic way using NERD, an exciting new language that isn't the s/w house's mandatory C#?
russdev Posted June 13, 2007 Author Posted June 13, 2007 what happens when .dot goes out of fashion or gets replaced with something else. Fashion is really something for random bloggers and their peeing contests over who can write the world's smallest implementation of PGP on a pinhead etc. I was trying to say quite a lot of coding these days is mostly about gluing API calls together so maintaining a good working knowledge of those and gaining it for the updates they release next week is rather important. Will I hit that deadline because I knew about a class hidden away in system.diagnostics that I've used before, does exactly what I need and will save me days-weeks of frustration? Or because I know how to write "Hello World" in a really cute but cryptic way using NERD, an exciting new language that isn't the s/w house's mandatory C#? I do agree slightly in fact yes knowing how to programme hello world in 20 languages but not being able to program well in one. But what I am saying is as 'programmers' never should be lead down path of having one language and not at least having some working knowledge of other languages. COBOL programmers is good example of that. Anyway as haven't learnt any new languages since vb (part from basic php) time to update my skills. Was looking at Windows Presentation Foundation seems interesting.. Russ
vbsqluser Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 Hi, Already you have got experience in Visual Basic so, better go for .net. Try this book : Database programming using Visual basic 2005 and Csharp 2005 http://www.vkinfotek.com
hoocmee Posted April 6, 2008 Posted April 6, 2008 I agree, with Visual Basic experience you learn .net more efficiently. Thing is, this is also probably the most profitable language atm...
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