RabbieBurns Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 I have a lot to say on this matter. Mostly opinion notr a lot of it fact. But i will be back to enlighten you all with my ramblings at a later point
localzuk Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 @ZeroHour: Typical English - Start something but cant finish it.. My 2cents.. I personally think Independence will be a bad move for Scotland... I think a bit more devolved power at most, a bit less of the ties to the UK, but not full blown Independence as I do not feel we can realistically support ourselves as a nation ( Financially, logistically, Defencively..) I think the SNP may be in for a surprise when the referendum (Which, despite being a Scot, I will not be able to have a say in!) happens.. Well, you don't live there, so you shouldn't get a vote... I'm originally from Birmingham but don't get a say in their local elections...
Gatt Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Scots need to get over something several hundred years old. They needed to be tamed and we tamed them ; ) Tell you what, we'll get over it if you lot shut up about 1966 1
RabbieBurns Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 I have a lot to say on this matter. Mostly opinion notr a lot of it fact. But i will be back to enlighten you all with my ramblings at a later point Interesting article today in the herald: The myths of independence - Herald Scotland | News | Politics ...Scotland accounts for 8.4% of the UK population, but in 2009-10 contributed 9.4% of overall UK tax revenue... ...It is calculated that more than half of the total value of North Sea reserves have yet to be extracted... etc
Flatpackhamster Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I'm in favour of Scottish independence. I don't think the SNP is. If they were, they wouldn't be trying to sign Scotland up to full membership of the EU. We need only to look at Greece and Ireland to see what 'full membership' means for a small country in the EU.
localzuk Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) I'm in favour of Scottish independence. I don't think the SNP is. If they were, they wouldn't be trying to sign Scotland up to full membership of the EU. We need only to look at Greece and Ireland to see what 'full membership' means for a small country in the EU. What? Massive bailout funds, and financial assistance? That's gotta suck... (I'm just being facetious by the way). Edited November 8, 2011 by localzuk
witch Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I don't care whether Scotland are independent or not. What I DO care about is that England isnt allowed its own parliament - just like Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland - so that English MPs can vote on things that only affect England. I get very annoyed when MPs from other parts of the UK vote on bills, laws etc that will not apply to them, especially given that my English MP cannot go to the Welsh Parliament or whatever and vote on theirs! /rant
Flatpackhamster Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 What? Massive bailout funds, and financial assistance? That's gotta suck... (I'm just being facetious by the way). Gradual collapse in export industries due to overvaluing of the Euro, permanently high unemployment and low productivity, and permanent subsidy from German taxpayers. Although I suppose that some 'nationalists' in Scotland would prefer cash from German than English taxpayers.
Earthling Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Would rather be the 51st state of america then be lumped with Europe personally Me too.
Jiser Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 England Scotland NI Wales are stronger together. Get over it scottish/irish it was hundreds of years ago, seriously? Were not living in the dark ages anymore. If they don't like it though give them the country, longer term we will be worse off and it will cost more money. However the whole thing is unfair. Students with free education in scotland? English taxpayers subsidising NI/Scotland and Wales. Were yet to get our own motorway in dorset...No infrastructure here. Bournemouth has some big business - e.g. J.P. Morgan, Nationwide, Siemens, Sunseeker etc. Its all being sent up north.
ZeroHour Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 However the whole thing is unfair. Students with free education in scotland? English taxpayers subsidising NI/Scotland and Wales. You dont subsidise Scotland as per Rabbies post! we also get free prescriptions as well. 2
Jiser Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 You dont subsidise Scotland as per Rabbies post! we also get free prescriptions as well. Dislike
RabbieBurns Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 we also get free prescriptions as well. only reason i go back every year is my refill of methedone, tamazapan, and to get my eyes tested free
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