MrEprise Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 I'm starting to pull my hair out over this one at the moment... Does anyone know someone who's willing to part with or somewhere that will sell 512MB or 1GB 168-Pin ECC Registered PC-133 SDRAM for an Intel SCB2 Server Motherboard in an Intel SR1200 1U Rackmount server case? As it is a 1U case, the modules need to be low or normal profile. I've gone to several companies who only sell the high profile modules designed for 2U+ cases. It would be nice to replace these servers at a later date as their getting on a bit, but as there is no allocation of funds for this, a RAM upgrade is the more cost-effective solution right now. Thanks.
saundersmatt Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 I've just pulled some PC133 registered from what was a 2U Dell server. The modules are 43mm tall. They're yours for nothing if they are any good. Matt 1
MrEprise Posted June 8, 2011 Author Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately they're a bit too tall. I've just measured one of a pair of faulty modules that came out of one of the servers. They would need to be around 30mm or shorter. It turns out that 1U server cases are 43mm tall so would not be any good. Edited June 8, 2011 by MrEprise spelling error
vikpaw Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 www.crucial.com/uk Have a configurator, so if your server spec is listed and they have stock they should only list items that will defo match your requirements. I may even have a way to get a discount for you based on cashback deals, as the older the spec the more expensive it is. 1
plexer Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 1GB, 168-pin DIMM, SDRAM, PC133 upgrades for Intel SCB2 Motherboard, CT241698 from Crucial.com £142 ouch Ben 1
plexer Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Oops just read this: Installed in pairs of modules.The parts listed for this server may not fit in a 1U rack case but they will fit in all standard 2U and larger rackmounted cases. If you need parts that are 1U rackmount server compliant, please contact your sales representative. Ben
mrbios Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Getting on a bit?! Those servers are probably the same age as most year 7s!! Out of interest what do you use them for?
MrEprise Posted June 8, 2011 Author Posted June 8, 2011 Getting on a bit?! Those servers are probably the same age as most year 7s!! Out of interest what do you use them for? We have 4 in total which originally had 1GB RAM each. One Used to be a McAfee ePO/WSUS server (originally with 1GB) but was too slow in the end so isn't being used. One is an Impero v3 server using the extra RAM out of the one above giving it 2GB. One is a Application server which had 2 modules recently die leaving it with 512MB. The last one is a Windows Server 2008 based Domain Controller which also has 1GB RAM. Technically, they're all fairly light-ish uses which kind of explains why we're still using them. Ideally I'd prefer to virtualise, but the NM's line manager (who oversees both IT support as well as the Teaching side) is a bit of a non-believer when it comes to virtualisation*, so we really haven't invested anything in it yet. On the flip side, if I have to replace them with newer physical servers, they would have to be quite cheap but still rackmount as space is at a premium.
mrbios Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Need to tell your NMs line manager that he, for lack of a better word, is a douche All of that could be done by one server with space for more on a nice virtualised HP DL360G7 or something along them lines! 1
Michael Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 I've had a look at my suppliers (out of curiosity) and a few of them only have the standard height PC133 SDRAM. Even a single 1GB stick is highly priced. In normal circumstances I would agree a memory upgrade is the cheaper option, but in this case it isn't. 4 x 1GB SDRAM at over £100 each or maybe more, if you have multiple servers. An entry server based on a low end Core 2 Duo with Server 2008 can be purchased for a little more. I suspect all your servers could be merged into one newer server, simplifying management too. 4GB of DDR2 800 ECC can be purchased for around £45.00. 1
SYNACK Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 TBH a ML110 with a quad core CPU could probably run the whole work load that those are capible of. I do have a 512MB stick of RAM that would work but it is the 43mm kind unfortunatly, really at this point spending any money on those servers is throwing it away in the short run let alone the long one. 1
mrbios Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Good point synack, perhaps: HP ProLiant DL120 G7 E3-1220 4GB-U B110i RAID 400W PS Server/TV (644706-425) specifications - HP Small & Medium Business products or http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/sm/WF06b/15351-15351-3328412-241475-241475-3929672-5102054.html + a memory upgrade Small and powerfull enough to run all the required services, from the looks of the memory prices in this thread, no doubt only a tiny bit more expensive than the memory too. Plus if you have an iSCSI device you wouldn't need to buy drives for it as you could put VMware on a usbstick internally and run all the VMs off an iscsi......but if you're using servers that old im guessing modern storage is unlikely too? 1
localzuk Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 One of these would do the job of all them - HP ProLiant DL120 G6 599148-425 | Insight UK 4GB RAM, 2.8Ghz processor, and just £372 for education customers. Cheaper than the RAM, and you would be able to eliminate all your old ones in one swoop IMO. 1
MrEprise Posted June 8, 2011 Author Posted June 8, 2011 Good point synack, perhaps: HP ProLiant DL120 G7 E3-1220 4GB-U B110i RAID 400W PS Server/TV (644706-425) specifications - HP Small & Medium Business products or HP ProLiant DL320 G6 E5603 1P 2GB-E 500GB SATA 500W PS Server/TV (470065-491) specifications - HP Small & Medium Business products + a memory upgrade Small and powerfull enough to run all the required services, from the looks of the memory prices in this thread, no doubt only a tiny bit more expensive than the memory too. Plus if you have an iSCSI device you wouldn't need to buy drives for it as you could put VMware on a usbstick internally and run all the VMs off an iscsi......but if you're using servers that old im guessing modern storage is unlikely too? To be honest, we don't have very many old servers anymore. We've got a lot of Dell kit bought within the last 3-4 years or so, so not as bad as you might think. As for storage: 4 1TB NAS's, 3 Dell PowerVault MD1000 storage arrays probably totalling approx 30TB (some for backups), etc... Thing is, we tend to use the old adage "If it aint broke, don't fix it" and technically these servers aren't broken, they could just do with a little bit more RAM. However, if RAM is going to be near impossible to get for these, then it just might be the right time to retire them from use. As I mentioned above, I'd really like to step into Virtualisation as even I think we've got too many servers (probably 30 odd now) which we ended up with because my NM's boss prefers one task to one server; he feels it's more reliable that way as one task doesn't have to share its resources with another. My colleagues all feel that VM's are a good way to go but as NM's boss is the budget holder, it hasn't happened in my favour. That said, I have a Hyper-V set up on a Dell PE1950 that became spare when we gave up using Sharepoint; but because storage is an issue, it only has stuff that doesn't require much storage.
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