Domino Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 Windows 8 and Its Incredibly Cool New Touch Interface Am I the only one who thinks this'll be horrible in a work/school environment..... 2
mullet_man Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 It looks like it has the standard Start Button etc underneath so I guess there will be a way to keep the 'standard' Windows desktop feel. IMO I think it looks great.
mac_shinobi Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 OS X Lion - yes please, am hoping they have good AHCI support on OS X Lion and will hopefully prompt a 3rd party to create / make NON RAID Sata 3 PCI Express X4 , X8, X16
danbuntu Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 I'm loving the fact that it's clearly based on Windows Phone Mobile 7 - and we all know what a great success that was 1
andy_nic Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 I really hope you can keep a standard look as a default, looking at one screen shot I’ve seen there is a desktop square or whatever they are called. I don’t mind the new look UI, think it will be great for tablets. But from first looks I prefer the current standard look for PC’s And laptops. But will reserve my final judgement till hands on.
tech_guy Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) Windows 8.........hmmmmmmm...... I get it (finally) - each of Microsoft's incarnations of Windows is the equivalent in child years so by the time Windows 21 is released we might have a half decent operating system that is starting to take things seriously.......? [walks off muttering under his breath] Edited June 2, 2011 by tech_guy 4
Domino Posted June 2, 2011 Author Posted June 2, 2011 I really hope you can keep a standard look as a default, looking at one screen shot I’ve seen there is a desktop square or whatever they are called. I don’t mind the new look UI, think it will be great for tablets. But from first looks I prefer the current standard look for PC’s And laptops. But will reserve my final judgement till hands on. From the above article You can't turn either of the experiences off—it's always there. The regular Windows is always underneath the new Live Tile start screen. The Live start screen always is on top of Windows. Of course it's still early days - but doesn't appear so :-( 1
TechMonkey Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 Dunno, first screen shots I saw I thought "Dear God!!" but I imagine that is the tablet UI & can probably be turned off. But it also got me thinking. What if it was customisable & set by group? So you create a kind of School Intranet homepage there, branded with your school colour scheme and logo. - A box for internal messages. - A box for linking to your VLE with what's changed, homework dates or an RSS feed of new resources. - A box with the school calendar on showing what is coming this week and next. - A box showing how many unread emails they have. - A box showing the latest trip photos that have been uploaded Could be interesting. As I said though, I think this will mainly be the tablet UI, but available as a launch item on PCs. 1
CAM Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 I like it, it's desktop widgets taken to the next step. Would feel odd with mouse/keyboard but I wonder how long they will last anyway.
gshaw Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) Looks great for tablets but that will be so irritating for non-touchscreen devices, the sensible way would be to have an option to set the UI based on device and user preferences... Just had another thought... could have those active tiles on a standard desktop... ah actually we've been there before... Windows 98 Active Desktop anyone Edited June 2, 2011 by gshaw
AngryTechnician Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) My first thought is that the entire of my Intranet home page could be replaced with tiles on the Start screen. Web apps and standard apps in the same intuitive menu system? Yes please! As for using it without a touchscreen, my guess is that it will work a bit like Media Center: cursor keys replace swiping left and right. I think I spotted a horizontal scroll bar in there too. It will take a bit of getting used to, just like the Office 2003 -> 2007 switch did, but that went fine in every school I did it with. Edited June 2, 2011 by AngryTechnician
SYNACK Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 All the stuff that I read previously indicated that there would be a touch type UI for tablets and a desktop type one for desktops. The biggest complaints about 7 for touch was that the interface was not right and so I think that they have spun it off. So long as they are keeping the idea of the UI being adaptable for the usage schenario it should be fine.
penfold Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 I think it looks good for a touch screen device, but dont really see the point in having all that included if your going to be putting it on a desktop. It looks more like it's aimed at the home user market who are used to touchscreen devices already and use them to browse the web/view images etc. With the ability to view a couple of things at the same time is always nice, but I'm not sure that having those features on a "work computer" will be anything more than a gimmic. In reality I tend to have a couple of windows open, but when I'm doing work I only work on 1 thing at a time with email alerts in the background. Without being able to turn the touchscreen feeling off, I think it would become an annoyance for keyboard and mouse users. But then maybe I'm old fashioned.
deceptivex Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 I'm loving the fact that it's clearly based on Windows Phone Mobile 7 - and we all know what a great success that was Look at the reviews mate, they are very nearly universally positive, not to mention the fact that carriers publically admitted that out of all the phones they sell, the Windows Phone's have the lowest return rate. Marketing is killing the phone nothing else, I've yet to meet anyone who has said "I don't like it". It's usually "I'd get it if it had this app" and with Nokia around the corner it's on it's way up. Holds the record for the fastest 0-10,000 apps. Also, it isn't Windows Phone interface, it's the Metro UI interface that Microsoft have been designing for a while now. 1
gshaw Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 Windows Phone just suffered from being a year too late imo, had it got there before the Desire and other high-quality Android based phones we may have seen a different story. As I saw on another site, looks a great interface for information consumption, not so good for information creation. Media Center is fine for choosing a channel (although even then I've got a remote control for it) but if it was my main PC interface I'd go crazy
Kitkatninja Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 I wonder what the exam for this OS will be like...
Jamo Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 Look at the reviews mate, they are very nearly universally positive, not to mention the fact that carriers publically admitted that out of all the phones they sell, the Windows Phone's have the lowest return rate. Marketing is killing the phone nothing else, I've yet to meet anyone who has said "I don't like it". It's usually "I'd get it if it had this app" and with Nokia around the corner it's on it's way up. Holds the record for the fastest 0-10,000 apps. Also, it isn't Windows Phone interface, it's the Metro UI interface that Microsoft have been designing for a while now. I agree with this, the reviews are awesome for WP7 I was actually quite surprised!! I really hope Windows 8 is still oriented towards the mouse first off and has a touch user interface which is interchangeable. I really can't stand touch interfaces for the majority of work. I seriously cant imaging coding with a touch screen keyboard!!! People seem to be going on about OSx Lion a lot? Is it really that much different? They just seem to re-badge the same garbage with a new name! Its still horiffic to use in a networked environment!!
featured_spectre Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 I quite like the look of this...whilst yes its reminiscent of Windows 7 phones, think of how long they have had to get this right. Tablets are making a big impact (nobody can deny this) not just for home but for business. They are making their OS fit the tablets and fit the home market, and by the looks of it, doing it well. I am quite interested to see how this will progress
SYNACK Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 The more technology progresses the more it mirrors startrek stuff, WP7 and the W8 stuff looks heavily influenced by the LCARS interface idea, just a little more fleshed out.
Roberto Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Windows 8 and Its Incredibly Cool New Touch Interface Am I the only one who thinks this'll be horrible in a work/school environment..... I was going to reserve judgement until I had tried it. I don't know how well it will work but think its exciting that they're actually trying something different. People moan when Microsoft don't innovate and then they try something new and people... moan about that too. They can't win. I can see a use for these tiles to notify people of site or organisation-wide notices, to keep track of things like printer credits, rss news feeds (both external and from your own Intranet). Sure it might be horrible. It might also be fantastic. And I suspect it will be manageable in a corporate managed environment - business is their bread and butter after all.
CyberNerd Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 People moan when Microsoft don't innovate and then they try something new and people... moan about that too. They can't win. It's not that innovative really, just a more up to date copy of Linux netbook GUI's of 3 years ago combined onto a touchscreen. 1
deceptivex Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 It's not that innovative really, just a more up to date copy of Linux netbook GUI's of 3 years ago combined onto a touchscreen. I suppose IOS is so much more innovative? (maybe 5 years ago). I'd struggle to believe anyone saying the Metro UI interface isn't up there in spot 1 or 2 for innovation and usefulness has ever used a Windows Phone. I have the iPhone 4 and the Omnia 7 and the route Microsoft is going down is going to leave Apple and Android in the dust in terms of Usability and usefulness if they market it right, they are moving away from having to open an app or an email and are making it truly integrated. Which I don't think anyone can deny that this is the way it should be anyway. I want to look at my phone and see information, not scroll across 4 pages of useless apps and then open it to find the info. The whole concept is remarkably similar to that future vision concept they had a few years back.
CyberNerd Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I have the iPhone 4 and the Omnia 7 and the route Microsoft is going down is going to leave Apple and Android in the dust in terms of Usability and usefulness if they market it right, they are moving away from having to open an app or an email and are making it truly integrated. Which I don't think anyone can deny that this is the way it should be anyway. I want to look at my phone and see information, not scroll across 4 pages of useless apps and then open it to find the info. my email appears in a widget on my android desktops already MS are doing what they always do - copy the useful bits from competitors, not that there is much wrong with that, Android does need some competition. The only truly innovative thing I can think of from MS was WinFS, which turned out to be vapourware.
deceptivex Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 my email appears in a widget on my android desktops already MS are doing what they always do - copy the useful bits from competitors, not that there is much wrong with that, Android does need some competition. The only truly innovative thing I can think of from MS was WinFS, which turned out to be vapourware. How is having an email on your home screen a copy? that's just a basic bit of functionality. When they integrate LinkedIn, Facebook Chat, Live Messenger and Twitter into the contact lists that will be pretty sweet. My Iphone doesn't do that and users still have to open the app. I wouldn't touch android ever, the only android phone I used was an HTC one 6 months ago and it was awful. Reminded me and how shit symbian was. Fragmented, sluggish, unreliable and the rest. Hell even Google have realized that they need to tighten it up. It's basically the linux of the phone world, except most people buy it because it's cheap instead of genuinely being interested in what it has to offer. Android doesn't even belong in the same sphere as IOS and WP7. It's embarrassing at a time when people want everything to just work, be smooth, get regular updates that are easy to apply and be simple to use. Apple have a great product that taps into what the end user wants, Android is trying to replace symbian with another equally crap product.
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