Jon Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 Does anybody have any experience of the awful winsuite desktop control software. If so have you experienced the problem were by destops that are controlled bt Screen manger refuse to load on client machine? I have a school that uses this dreadful programme and certain machine display this problem sometimes a uninsatll and reinstall of winsuite on the client will cure it ... Sometimes not. Any help greatly appreciated.
plexer Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 It was installed here when I started now we have vanilla 2k3. Ben
craiglay Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 Yeah, I've seen this before. It was fixed by doing a clean uninstall then reinstalling Winsuite. I used the following command \\YOURSERVERNAME\RollNT$\Townt.exe /W /UC Then reinstalled as per normal. The usuable uninstall seems to leave all the config files which are probably causing the problem. Seconded that it is awful... Trialing its removal in one school as its causing problems. The only good point (IMO) about Winsuite is the logon box as i'm in Primary's. Craig
plexer Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 Just proves how such a nasty piece of software was imposed on Norfolk schools by the LEA. I didn't even notice the original poster was from norfolk actually. Welcome also to Craig who's my feeder schools cluster support technician finally got on here then. Ben
craiglay Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 Yeah, nasty software to go with my nasty Elonex hardware too Another tip is not to uninstall it from the server as you cannot register it through the county proxy (it didn't fix this problem either). I found a NCC hack in another school though so its a common problem. Hi all, esp Ben, only been about a year... Love the site. Very helpful and got me out of hot spots many a time. Craig
Jon Posted February 28, 2007 Author Posted February 28, 2007 Hi to all the Norfolk Techs...We are not really all related are we? This winsuite and Elonex hardware thing does seem to be a Norfolk Issue... Are you people employed by your schools directly or are you LEA (ICT Solutions) techs.
craiglay Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Not that I know of Yeah, and now we get Dells :s I'm employed directly by the schools (6 Primarys in the area) Craig
plexer Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 I'm employed by the school and I have 1 technician in house helping me and Craig out in the field supporting the feeder schools. Previous to having Craig onboard some of the feeders bought in to the overpriced field tech service. elonex were the LEA preferred supplier for hardware so that's why we've been lumped with that and winsuite was their security method. Ben
phil_thebeans Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Hi all just thought I'd give a different side to the winsuite experience. The early versions were the most awful piece of dodgy software ever built but the latest version is as far as we have experienced very reliable and significantly reduces our tech time as we give all students the exact same desktop plus 1 for adulted, 1 for staff and one for the 6th form. Although I would prefer to go down the vanila route I inherited the system and haven't been able to convince management that there would be a great benefit to the users as unfortunately there is very little concern for our students to experience a real world setup, however the new ICT coordinator is as keen as me to give the kids a taste of what they will encounter when they leave school. So no RM crap or specialist software that they will never encounter we are trying to change their experience so as to prepare them for corparate networks etc. Thank god that the online ks3 testing is not now compulsory as we shall hopefully never put our kids through those poorly designed tests, oh and guess who is behind them RM isn't it? Our local lea (norfolk) has consistently made the wrong decisions regarding hardware for example Tiny, then Elenox (really badly built switches on their desktops and the power supplys failed after less than 18 months, we had to replace over 50%) broadband is a last becomibg reliable although the speeds are poor in comparision to a leased line (for obvious reasons, contention) no remote access to our network for myself or my techie and the caching server they gave us is so noisy that we have had to house it in a remote cupboard ( although we have now decommissioned it as we are useing our own proxy as we had always done) OK sorry for digressing into a rant about my lea but i'm sure all the norfolk techies could agree on some if not all points and as a final dig at the lea i'll leave you with 2 words ICT SOLUTIONS.
plexer Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Trouble is this thread just appears to be us norfolk techies talking to each other Do you have the active directory version of winsuite? You can have remote access via neoteris for £1000 p/a and £750 thereafter. Ben
SteveT Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Hi to all the Norfolk Techs...We are not really all related are we? . .... you're from Norfolk so you probably are all related!!!! <----------- (ducks and runs)
Jon Posted February 28, 2007 Author Posted February 28, 2007 Hi to all the Norfolk Techs...We are not really all related are we? . .... you're from Norfolk so you probably are all related!!!! <----------- (ducks and runs) Yes but we can type that much quicker with 6 fingers on each hand
phil_thebeans Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Yes we are using the active directory version. The problem with neoteris as i understand it is that it only allows access to folders and we want complete remote access to all our systems
plexer Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Phil, Neoteris allows you to remote desktop to a server or machine. Plus you can have your intranet forwarded as well. We didn't have the AD version of winsuite only the policy version. Ben
phil_thebeans Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Cheers I hadn't been told that by ICT Solutuions, surprise surprise
craiglay Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Hmmm, ICT solutions were telling me that I shouldn't be using 3.5 any more (most likely correct) and should be using 3.51 (prob the AD one) but I should speak to procurement.... Thats when it starts to sound expensive, given they've just bought an IT suite with 3.5 licences!! Craig
craiglay Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 From ICT solution I may add... £450 for Dell Optiplex 320's 3gig celeron, gig ram, 80gig HD, 17inch TFT Then the licences on top... Its a bit steep really... Craig
farmerste Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 the main feature of winsuite for me, is the user add tool to active directory,th program works well with windows 2000 server and w 98 clients though, saves writing policies for w 98
ninjabeaver Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Winsuite is horrid. It screws up so many things in a non-standard way. Vanilla 2003 is definitely the way to go. (Four Norfolk edugeekers in one thread? Is that a record? ) 5 now, and I'm hoping to remove WinSuite during Easter Hols.
craiglay Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 the main feature of winsuite for me, is the user add tool to active directory I have written my own script, and there is a whole thread regarding this and other peoples attemps. However, I agree it is a handy feature. You can also export direct from Phoenix (Norfolk people prob know this) I am in the process of removing Winsuite in one of my primaries to great success. I also just found out that I can't prevent kids from locking PC's for some reason. Something the GPO editor solved quickly... Craig
ninjabeaver Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 From ICT solution I may add... £450 for Dell Optiplex 320's 3gig celeron, gig ram, 80gig HD, 17inch TFT Then the licences on top... Its a bit steep really... Craig Give Gary Hogg at NovaTech a shout. We deal with him for all PC's now. Custom built to your spec if you buy a certain number, but he bends over backwards to help. Gary Hogg - NovaTech - 02392 322535 <- Direct NovaTech
Pumaedition Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 holy thread resurrection, but to any Norfolkers who are still using Winsuite (probably not as you have sense and have uninstalled it!), we are having issues with it absolutely hating MSOffice. There seems to be a problem with every Office program to date.... Publisher won't open as it says low on memory, or hard disk is full....then asks to start in safe mode. Uninstall Winsuite, and all is well again! Word ALWAYS asks to save the "Normal.dot" template when closing work. Numerous files lost as students think they have saved files, but they have saved the template instead Access won't let students create reports/queries and forms Excel decides to open absolutely everything in the students home directory, even though the box in options for "on tart up open..." is empty And before anyone suggests OpenOffice....it's installed, but even that throws up an error message with "Internal Error Detected" Any ideas...apart from the obvious "get rid of the bloody thing!" Yours, A Very Frustrated ICT Tech!!
GaryCantley Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Must be the thread to place my first posting in and keep with the Norfick boys I support 2 schools near me. Both have winsuite installed (Primaries), not had many problems on either ....yet. However, I have just given two older PC's running XP to one school but cannot get winsuite installed on them. I have connected PC's to network and they see the server fine. But when I run \\server\rollnt$, it comes up with a couple of boxes and then nothing. Left it running for about 10 mins this afternoon to see if it would install. Any help greatly received Gary
jfairbairn Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I've been having various issues with winsuite, but my biggest bugbear with NDI tech is that they have not updated any of their winsuite flavours since 2005 and yet they still have the cheek to sell it. whinge whinge, moan moan.
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