marsdenprimary Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Hi, We had our server replaced a few years back and so we're left with a redundant DELL Poweredge 1600SC. I wondered if anyone had any suggestions what I could use it for? I'd like to be able to put it somewhere for use...but i'm not sure where. Someone suggested using it as a Linux server (which I quite like the idea of) for things like FOG etc... but I haven't a clue what i'm doing J x
FN-GM Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 I have one of these in store retired from years ago. Anyway, you could use it to set out software before you put them onto servers. Might save problems down the line... 1
gshaw Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Depending on the spec you could whack the free VMWare products on there and set up a test lab network so you can trial upgrades, config changes etc without worrying about affecting the live network. Very good for trialling new technologies before letting them near production
FN-GM Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Depending on the spec you could whack the free VMWare products on there and set up a test lab network so you can trial upgrades, config changes etc without worrying about affecting the live network. Very good for trialling new technologies before letting them near production I dont think the hardware supports virtualisation. I am 99.99% sure it doesn't
3s-gtech Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 I'm a hoarder when it comes to servers - I have some decent newer stuff running the main duties but I also have: 1 x Poweredge 2500 3 x Poweredge 2550 1 x Poweredge 1550 The 2500 is an RDP connection client - I use it as a remote Windows XP for the teachers when using Macs, to give them SIMS etc. The 2550s - one is a domain controller for the main domain, one is a DC for our staff domain, and the third runs Debian for hosting Xibo and BookIT. The 1550 was a recent Ebay buy, I'll find a use for it. All of these servers are at their max spec, dual processors, 2GB+ of RAM, and do their jobs perfectly. May be more costly on juice than VMs, but they're for disaster recovery in another building. 1
dwhyte85 Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 My P-Edge 2850 is running ESXi - that's a free VMWare product that installs directly as an OS for the server, I don't like it as much as ESX but I'm poor. It's easy to use. 1
marsdenprimary Posted November 23, 2010 Author Posted November 23, 2010 My P-Edge 2850 is running ESXi - that's a free VMWare product that installs directly as an OS for the server, I don't like it as much as ESX but I'm poor. It's easy to use. This sounds interesting... is it easy to set up?
dhicks Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 I dont think the hardware supports virtualisation. You'll still be able to run paravirtualised Linux distributions under Xen, though. I have an older machine running Debian Lenny as both host and a couple of guest operating systems. -- David Hicks
dwhyte85 Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 This sounds interesting... is it easy to set up? https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/ You need to sign up to get access to it, the bit you're concerned with is ESXi 4.1 - not sure on the specs required but it has a tiny footprint, burn the ISO and install from disc. Follow instructions and that's pretty much it.
3s-gtech Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 It needs hardware virtualisation and 64bit capability I believe - not too much of a stretch on more modern servers - my five year old DL360 G4 can do it.
dwhyte85 Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 My DL380 does it pretty well, but I decided he'd be better as CentOS
FN-GM Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 My P-Edge 2850 is running ESXi - that's a free VMWare product that installs directly as an OS for the server, I don't like it as much as ESX but I'm poor. It's easy to use. I didnt think the 2800 & 2850 would let you do this.
dwhyte85 Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Mine is working - I did have to fiddle abit in the bios but, works OK, i don't have 4.1 though
oxide54 Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 I dont think the hardware supports virtualisation. I am 99.99% sure it doesn't doesn't need to with esxi at least not for 32bit vm's
oxide54 Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 You'll still be able to run paravirtualised Linux distributions under Xen, though. I have an older machine running Debian Lenny as both host and a couple of guest operating systems. -- David Hicks you run the host and the vm's on the same box?? (sorry . couldn't help it)
GrumbleDook Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 A box for a test environment so you don't break the live one when testing things.
dhicks Posted November 24, 2010 Posted November 24, 2010 you run the host and the vm's on the same box?? (sorry . couldn't help it) Sorry, not quite with you. I have one older, non-hardware-virtulisation-capable (although dual-processor, so still really quite capable) server running Debian Lenny with Xen, this then hosts a couple of Xen virtual machines also running Debian Lenny. Paravirtulisation overheads are minimal (3%?), so a dual-processor machine with a RAID array can make like at least two machines, easily. -- David Hicks
oxide54 Posted November 24, 2010 Posted November 24, 2010 sorry it was a really bad joke (solder fumes were getting to me)
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