Edu-IT Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) What's the address for that sister_annex? Edit: http://nbdev.co.uk/blogs/dev_blog/archive/2010/10/23/home-access-plus-the-school-computer-browser-desktop-client.aspx As you can see, it very closely mirrors the Silverlight Client. I’ve also taken a leaf out of Microsoft’s books and am using the Ribbon interface from office 2010 (was going for the default one they use but didn’t like it) Keep an eye out on this website, as I’ll be putting a DEMO app up online when I get it nearly done. This client will be a purchasable app for HAP+. It’ll be around the £10 mark, and will allow more features than the silverlight version, and much more. Edited March 6, 2011 by Edu-IT
sister_annex Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 That's the one although I think the £10 may be a typo think it may be £100 but don't quote me on that Mark
Edu-IT Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 That's the one although I think the £10 may be a typo think it may be £100 but don't quote me on that Mark One hopes not!
nickbro Posted March 6, 2011 Author Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) I've stopped developing the desktop client as the next version of silverlight does a lot more. Anyhow, more news, HAP 6 is on track for an Easter release. I'm also adding graphs for the logon tracker. You'll be able to drill down into a computer and even a days logs for detailed stuff [ATTACH=CONFIG]9632[/ATTACH] I'm trying to get as many graphs as I can into the tracker for you lot, so you can visualize the data, give you some stuff to show SMT about usage The graph is actually for 1 computer, hadn't put the full chart title in, oops. It'll be Select Month > Select Computer > Select Day. The Select Month Page will give you each month since HAP LT was installed The Select Computer page is the current historic log page, just with hyperlinks to the computer view/Select Day The Select Day page will disable a graph like the one above, with links to the individual day view The Day view will display a computers day usage, by hour I'll try to get it so you can select an individual day straight from the main log screen to save having to select a computer first Edited March 6, 2011 by nickbro
sister_annex Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Thanks for that nick, shame about the client but can understand why you have chosen this route. Thanks again for your work on this and I'm glad to see that hap+ is progressing As an aside and I'm not sure how feasible this would be, we see a lot on here with issues with altering the config file mainly to setup the ldap settings etc, I know you had the config tool but was wondering whether it would be worth seeing if moving it to a webpage based system would help especially with troubleshooting. IMHO that would help with setup... Don't know thinking out loud Mark
nickbro Posted March 6, 2011 Author Posted March 6, 2011 Having a web setup page would be nice, but would require a lot of coding to get it right, it's complicated. Anyone want to help? On a side note, here are some more screenshots of the new look tracker [ATTACH=CONFIG]9636[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9637[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9638[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9639[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9640[/ATTACH]
sister_annex Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 If my c#/web stuff was anywhere near decent I would but as ir said before I'm crap at web and code in vb.net which I know is not a massive stretch to change to c# but I wouldn't want to risk my relative noobishness on it quite just yet lol
itdc Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Dear, We have a problem with shared drives. In basic mode, we can access home drives but we get "unauthorised access" error on shared drives. In enhanced mode, we can access home drives and shared drives without a problem. Anyone know why a shared drive can be accessed in enhanced mode but not in basic mode? Thanks, Dubai College IT.
dgsmith Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Having a web setup page would be nice, but would require a lot of coding to get it right, it's complicated. Anyone want to help? On a side note, here are some more screenshots of the new look tracker [ATTACH=CONFIG]9636[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9637[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9638[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9639[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9640[/ATTACH] This is still tracking internally though right? I don't see any need to track logins/usage internally.. it would be be logging in externally and tracking that which i'd be more keen to know.
nickbro Posted March 7, 2011 Author Posted March 7, 2011 This is still tracking internally though right? I don't see any need to track logins/usage internally.. it would be be logging in externally and tracking that which i'd be more keen to know. The need is there, if a call from the LEA comes down that they need to know who was using a computer at a specific point in time and with a specific IP. Tracking website use should be done via IIS logs
dgsmith Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 The need is there, if a call from the LEA comes down that they need to know who was using a computer at a specific point in time and with a specific IP. Tracking website use should be done via IIS logs But does it track actual computer logins indepentant to whether they actually use/login to HAP or not? If the former, it'd be very useful and be a great addition (although nothing to do with HAP mind), though if it only tracks HAP activity internally, then I can't see a use for this.. :/ A student could login to someone else's account through HAP as easily as they could on an actual computer. Maybe I am overlooking something, though what are the benefits of knowing who is using HAP internally and during school hours? I'm not being critical, I just can't think of a reason.. The extent of our usage of HAP internally since we installed it is to show the kids how to use it from home, as opposed to encouraging usage within school. On a side note, should HAP work with Windows/Firefox and Apple/Safari? Some kids have had problems with these combinations.
sister_annex Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 This is still tracking internally though right? I don't see any need to track logins/usage internally.. it would be be logging in externally and tracking that which i'd be more keen to know. We have a policy that students should only be logged in to one place at a time, therefore, logging where and when they logged on is necessary (we wrote our own app to do this, but HAP+'s Logon tracker does just as good a job - if not better ) I do agree though, that logins externally could be tracked also - as simple as who accessed what at what time, the interface is pretty much already there with the logon tracker, I can't imagine it would be too much to include an external logon to this it would be good to see this functionality included. Mark
nickbro Posted March 7, 2011 Author Posted March 7, 2011 Logons yes, but not logoffs. Thus why i recommend using IIS's logs to get that information. e.g. IIS Log Analyzer : Community : The Official Microsoft IIS Site 1
levell3r Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi, Firstly - many thanks for this software, it has the potential to relieve a lot of tension at our school!! I have it running internally for now, and when its ready we'll get the lea to open it up externally. Its running on a member server, 2003 r2, iis 6. Logging on with domain admin and i get "Error: Unauthorised Access You have attempted to access a restricted resource" even on the shared drives that are read/write for everyone? help?
sister_annex Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi, Firstly - many thanks for this software, it has the potential to relieve a lot of tension at our school!! I have it running internally for now, and when its ready we'll get the lea to open it up externally. Its running on a member server, 2003 r2, iis 6. Logging on with domain admin and i get "Error: Unauthorised Access You have attempted to access a restricted resource" even on the shared drives that are read/write for everyone? help? In the UNC Paths section of your web.config file do you have it configured similar to below? It may be worth checking that to see if this sorts you out. Mark
levell3r Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) I thought that section was for enabling the drives to appear or not? but this is ours at the moment? im logged on with domain admin, so i have full NTFS permissions on those directories and i am in added in the UNCPATHS sections.. Edited March 8, 2011 by levell3r extra info
sister_annex Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 I thought that section was for enabling the drives to appear or not? but this is ours at the moment? im logged on with domain admin, so i have full NTFS permissions on those directories and i am in added in the UNCPATHS sections.. If the problem you are having is with the 'N' Drive then I'm not sure the {0} will work with the unc paths - if your users have a Homedrive mapping in AD then you can put in %homedrive% This may be your problem. Does it work for the other drive letters you have listed? Try removing them one at a time and see which one breaks it... HTH Mark
itdc Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Dear, I have a problem in Extended Version I can delete, rename, .......... but I can't download. Regards, Dubai College IT Edited March 8, 2011 by itdc
levell3r Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 @ITDC : I already have those settings, thanks though. @sister_annex : It gives the restricted message for all the drives in basic mode, if i goto silverlight version it just gives a "An Error Occurred" box. I'll try commenting them out and see what happens..
levell3r Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Still the same, even if i just leave one drive, which has the everyone full NTFS permissions.. :S just for clarification, this is the error screen... http://i53.tinypic.com/24o589y.jpg
sister_annex Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 hmmm.... PM me your web.config file and i'll take a look (obviously take out any passwords:)) Mark 1
levell3r Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 maybe im REALLY daft, but theres no attach file option is there.. and it maxes out @5k characters and my web config is 12k :/ can i email to you instead?
Edu-IT Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Private pastebin? Pastebin.com - #1 paste tool since 2002! 1
jonnykewell1 Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 this error is related to the permissions. Right click the drive go to permissions and add a permission for the actual computer name of the server you are using to host home access plus. So we use "server1" to host. Add "server1" to the permissions list give it full control and it should then allow you in.
levell3r Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 so..if i have FileSvr IISSvr im adding permissions for the IISSvr (computer account) onto the servershare. Sorry to just repeat what your saying, it helps me visualise it
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