witch Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) Probably a silly question but my boss wants to know - if we do go for wireless, how do we check the coverage across the school? There are lots of possible locations for the APs so is there a program or something that would show what the signal was like at each point? Obviously you can walk around with a wireless laptop but I think he is looking for something a little more technical. *due to budgetary constraints he might be looking at scattering a few netgears or whatever about Edited July 1, 2010 by witch
plexer Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 If you are paying for an install they should do a site survey and produce a coverage map for you. Or if you are picking a particular vendors equipment they may well do it for you. Ben
plexer Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 Additionally the solution you choose may come with it's own RF mapping tool. Ben
robk Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 You could have a look at InSSIDer from metageeks Lets you measure signal strenth from a given ap, and shows interference. Thats What Net-Ctrl recommend using to test ruckus deployment anyway.
Roopert Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 I dont know if this exactly fits what you need, as you will need to take at least one AP round with you and place it in likely spots, but the netstumbler software is great for testing wireless signals and how strong/weak they will be. Only trouble is it does mean installing on a laptop and walking round with it! (NetStumbler.com)
jsnetman Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 Start with one AP installed, get yourself a laptop and walk about withit until the signal becomes low, situate another AP and so on.
LeMarchand Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) Obviously you can walk around with a wireless laptop but I think he is looking for something a little more technical. A wireless laptop with Netstumbler running? (Or a smartphone with WiFiFoFum - the radar view and pinging looks/sounds impressive). Roopert got there first! Edited July 1, 2010 by LeMarchand Beaten to it
jsnetman Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 A wireless laptop with Netstumbler running? (Or a smartphone with WiFiFoFum - the radar view and pinging looks/sounds impressive). It's the laptops that will be connecting and a bog standard wireless net card will give you what you want.
witch Posted July 1, 2010 Author Posted July 1, 2010 I think he isnt thinking about buying a 'solution' as such - just a few bits and pieces. I could walk about with a laptop, if indeed I had one of my own, but he just wondered if there was something that would show in graphic form how the signal is, so that the APs are placed as accurately as possible. What would netstumbler tell me?
plexer Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 Some freebie s/w for you Ekahau HeatMapper - The Free Wi-Fi Coverage Mapping Site Survey Tool Ben 1
CadlaM Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 I use WiFiFofum on an iPod. Works a treat and you could make a note of RSSI and channels in different areas.
pete Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 Our test is to stream a video from a server to the laptop. Walk slowly away from the AP until it stops / stutters. Mark that spot on your map. Walk back towards the AP until it doesn't stutter. Mark that spot. Takes a while, but you should be able to plot the usable range of each AP N/S/E/W. Signal strength from the AP is misleading, because the AP usually has a much better antenna than the laptop. It can talk to you easily, but you may have problems sending data back.
Roopert Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) I would have a look at netstumbler as well, though i like the idea of seeing a live data stream and its effect in a wireless situation. Netstumbler has a sort of traffic light system for signal strength and its quite easy to see when an AP is strong/weak. Its quite simple to use just install and let it scan away. Edited July 1, 2010 by Roopert
Brpilot99 Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 If you want to be really flash buy a usb spectrum analyser on Ebay £89.00 turns your laptop into a spectrum analyser ... its got all sorts of pretty pictures !! It will also show any transmissions in the 2.4 gig band such as microwave ovens etc that could cause wifi problems with your portables ........... Ive used netstumbler in the past and its pretty good at telling the signal strength but I dont think it works with Windows 7 ..
witch Posted July 1, 2010 Author Posted July 1, 2010 Looks like my only option is to take in my own laptop so I wont be able to connect to the server. I will try the other solutions - thanks a lot
tin Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 Our test is to stream a video from a server to the laptop. Walk slowly away from the AP until it stops / stutters. Mark that spot on your map. Walk back towards the AP until it doesn't stutter. Mark that spot. Takes a while, but you should be able to plot the usable range of each AP N/S/E/W. Signal strength from the AP is misleading, because the AP usually has a much better antenna than the laptop. It can talk to you easily, but you may have problems sending data back. Agree entirely, the ability of a laptop to get it's transmission back to the AP is usually completely overlooked (no idea why!). We take a slightly different approach in that we use jperf to generate the traffic and observe when going out of range.
witch Posted July 1, 2010 Author Posted July 1, 2010 As I said, I cant stream anything from the server unless I can wrestle a laptop away from a teacher, which is highly unlikely. Have installed netstumbler on my laptop, am trying very hard to understand what the graphs are telling me (and me a radio engineer - how embarassing). Found about 14 local wireless networks including 4 with no security and one called by the owners surname - she has a business and so was easy to trace! I did my civic duty and popped round to tell her. So, in a nutshell, what will i see as I approach and leave an ap. I thought I knew until I saw that our own network appears to have a lower strength signal than all the others - but no noise. I'm sure I'm looking at it wrongly.
Dexi Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 I like NetSurveyor for the job of checking signal strengths and working out best positions for AP's. I prefer it to netstumbler and it's easy to read and gives you detailed info. NetSurveyor :: WiFi Network Discovery Tool
ssiruuk2 Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 WiFi analyser is a free tool for Android smartphones that you can download from the market.. pretty useful if you have a phone of this type and can't get a laptop for some basic tests. Shows signal strength, channel, residential networks etc
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