Bye Bye Gordon!

[Disease]

For all those of you who voted Tory........please remember that when you lose your jobs due to devastating Tory Spending cuts, please come and say good bye on the way out and we can give you the 1 fingered salute.

Hope none of you rely too much on Working Families Tax Credits or your kids on EMA..............

 

A sad sad day for Britain, how long before they put Maggie back in front of the cameras????

 

Why is it Labour supporters are always so bitter and never accept any blame for the current sorry state this country is in. Good riddence to bad rubbish, may it be a long time before Labour and their socialist experiments darken our doors again!

[teejay]

Scrapping our opposition to Trident - words fail me

 

If I remember correctly from last night, the plan is that the LD will be able to explore alterantives to Trident and will have a free vote if Trident goes to parliament. Will have to wait and see when the agreement is published later.

[tmcd35]

Dispite my general doom saying I do believe, if the coalition holds together and the referendum actually happens, that this is the third best of all possible outcomes when we were going into the election. All the other possibilites that might have been would have been worse than a ConDem'd coalition.

 

The two better outcomes would have been a stronger Labour result that could have held together a LibLab coalition or a Liberal land slide victory. Since the later is in the realms of pure fantasy and the former really was just as unlikely given GB's popularity - we got the best result we possibly could, I just hope it does last.

[witch]

Dispite my general doom saying I do believe, if the coalition holds together and the referendum actually happens, that this is the third best of all possible outcomes when we were going into the election. All the other possibilites that might have been would have been worse than a ConDem'd coalition.

 

The two better outcomes would have been a stronger Labour result that could have held together a LibLab coalition or a Liberal land slide victory. Since the later is in the realms of pure fantasy and the former really was just as unlikely given GB's popularity - we got the best result we possibly could, I just hope it does last.

 

Yes, you are probably right - it's just when I hear Cameron going on about transparent government etc when his party have done more hiding of things (expenses, donors, etc) than most (yes, I know Labour aren't lily-white either before you all yell)

He just seems so smug and all I can see is the 'party of the rich' when I look at him. I just don't see how he is going to help the rank-and-file, and I feel (as with Tony Blair by the end) that when he says 'middle'class' he means anyone earning over £100,000 a year instead of us lower income people who don't qualify for any help with anything and seem to be paying for everyone else!!

 

*...and breathe.....

[featured_spectre]

I Agree with teejay. The fact that they have managed to get to a compromise on policies and what looks like a working solution is nothing short of amazing! It is a good indicator that they LISTENED to the public as the policies they have kept on both sides are the ones that the majority of people want!

[Rydra]

Personally I think a LabDem mix had the best potential for the country as a whole, but with a Conservative majority it could not and would not have worked. It would have resulted in the usual bickering, and one side purposely voting against the other.

 

We'd have seen the most changes to the way things are run, with the least disruption to our daily lives. It may not have been perfect for now, but I think we'd have seen a much stronger government at the next election because of it.

 

As to Gordon quitting, he did the best he could with what he had. I believe had he called a general election earlier, Labour may have done better.

The cycle keeps on turning, name a party leader we've had in the last 20-25 years that by the time they left power were still 'popular'.

The problem with being at the top, is the excrement tends to float there, regardless of where it came from. And anyone new at the top tends to inherit what's there from before, and hope that some of it subsides before he has to do too much.

 

And I love the ConDem acronym. sums it up nicely, though I agree I think it will be what gives us the strongest government NOW, I fear for what any long-term affects of this might be.

[witch]

Via Twitter - Even the tube staff agree cameron is a bad idea on Twitpic

 

I love it!

[Guest Guest]

Bye Bye Gordon!

 

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[witch]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

..and your point?

[Guest Guest]

..and your point?

 

If you cant figure it out on your own then theres no point in me trying to explain it to you

[witch]

If you cant figure it out on your own then theres no point in me trying to explain it to you

 

What would I know? I'm a Liberal

[mattx]

This is what really happened:

 

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/171/gordonresigns.jpg

[tech_guy]

Matt, you're gonna make a fortune with those photos!

[mattx]

That one was sent to me - I've done ones before and been threatened with libel [ I think I told you the story of that a while ago didn't I ? ] Best not go on about on a public forum....

[SpuffMonkey]

Yeah - 'Deputy Prime Minister' -now there's a poisoned chalice if ever there was one

 

Too right - Alistaire Campbell was on Newsnight yesterday and reckoned that taking that was a huge error - he should've have got himself a big department - as thats where the power lies.

[SteveBentley]

Apparently there is a precedent for the Deputy Prime Minister of a coalition government to take 11 Downing Street rather than the Chancellor. Wonder whether Clegg is going to kick Osborne out?

[broc]

Deputy PM = no constitutional power by right. I wonder what Nick Clegg thinks he will be doing?

[tmcd35]

Well we have no constitution as such, just a ever growing list of changing convensions. There have been governments before without a Deputy PM (did Major or Thatcher have one, can't remember?). We don't yet know the full extent and terms of the power sharing deal, so we don't yet know just how much power Clegg would have as Deputy PM. Maybe because of the nature of the coalition they may have re-written the job spec some what. Time will tell.

[broc]

Well we have no constitution as such, just a ever growing list of changing convensions. .

Not quite true, we have no single document defining the British Constitution, it exists in a series of documents and laws laid down as far back as the Magna Carta....

[SteveBentley]

When Prescott was Deputy PM it also included responsibility for the regions. It's a role that can be made to mean whatever they want it to, and will almost certainly have been part of the agreement between the parties.

 

Presumably Deputy PM means that if Cameron isn't available, Clegg will take to the despatch box for Prime Minister's Questions?

[broc]

Deputy PM role is defined by PM, and can be as comprehensive or as trivial as the PM likes. I am intrigued to see what role has been created for Nick Clegg. It could be a proper job, or window-dressing......

[contink]

Little historical lesson... The original American constitution included the rule that the losing presidential candidate would be the deputy... Common sense prevailed and it was removed a in a later amendment.

 

Ok, so they're allegedly working for the good of the country but I see things going the route of Clegg gets to announce all the "cuts, bad news, more cuts" stuff while Cameron takes all the positive stuff... One year... that's about all I'll give it but Clegg may well be smarter than we give credit for..

 

 

As for all the out with the old, bring on the new... "Oh, pretty shiny new toy" cr*p... Give it a rest...

 

The next four years are going to be belt tightening like you've never seen... People will die (health cuts), kids will not get educated (education cuts) and unemployment will soar (hack and slash in the civil service)... But without doubt, unless it's done we'll never regain a sense of perspective as to what real work, real suffering and real poverty actually is... We've had it far too s*dding easy and it's time to figure out the value of what we've had...

 

And this government will be remembered for every negative bit of it.. Brown probably is better off out of it...

[DrCheese]

The next four years are going to be belt tightening like you've never seen...

Well yea, the alternative is to end up like Greece. Fantastic.

Of course, no one really wants cuts and it's pretty unfair the public should suffer due to the incompetence of the private banking sector but it's something we're going to have to accept.

Edited May 12, 2010 by DrCheese

[Dos_Box]

Well yea, the alternative is to end up like Greece. Fantastic.

Of course, no one really wants cuts and it's pretty unfair the public should suffer due to the incompetence of the private banking sector but it's something we're going to have to accept.

 

It's not just the banking sector bailout. The previous govt had been spending more than they had been brining in for many, many years now. The media are only just now beginning to report on just how bad the UKs defecit is now that Labour has no hold over them.

[Disease]

 

 

The next four years are going to be belt tightening like you've never seen... People will die (health cuts), kids will not get educated (education cuts) and unemployment will soar (hack and slash in the civil service)... But without doubt, unless it's done we'll never regain a sense of perspective as to what real work, real suffering and real poverty actually is... We've had it far too s*dding easy and it's time to figure out the value of what we've had...

 

And this government will be remembered for every negative bit of it.. Brown probably is better off out of it...

 

Funny how Labour supporters are so damn blind to what state Labour have left ths country in. People have been dying whilst under the Labour Government, are we to forget the fact that people are refused life extending cancer drugs due to cost yet we can afford to give people to bone idle to work a free laptop and free internet connection? Labour supporters need to get real and smell the roses, the reason education seems to have been improved is down to the fact that Labour has dumbed down the GCSE's to such a point where a blind deaf monkey could pass them.

 

Stop believing your own propoganda.