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i dont think it would of mattered much who was in power over recent years most of the problems hadn't/couldnt of been predicted and sometimes you just have to make a decision and hope its right and you wont always be right. I dont get why everyone seems to of turned on brown
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Poor old Gordy, wonder how he'll cope out of politics? Cut to a scene two weeks from now - Gordon naked except for a pair of dirty y-fronts, stumbling drunkenly around his garden clutching a bottle of Buckfast, shouting at the pigeons.....
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Forget Brown with the blame-it-all-on-me schtick, it's New Labour collectively I'm oh so happy to wave off. I was actually thrilled last-night when people like John Reid kicked off talking like credible socialists are supposed to, and more to the point **with a bit of honour and integrity** as opposed to smug [smelly b-word] we've been steadily fed ever since the start of Blair's first victory speech.
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Poor old Gordy, wonder how he'll cope out of politics? Cut to a scene two weeks from now - Gordon naked except for a pair of dirty y-fronts, stumbling drunkenly around his garden clutching a bottle of Buckfast, shouting at the pigeons.....

 

If he'd done that b4 or during the election more people may of voted for him. Deity help us with Cameron "I'm a smug b&st*rd" in power now!!

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Can think of lots of better places to have thrown "smug" in the last decade or so, but no matter the new model appears to be (thanks to the Lib Dems apparently): Forget Deity, and bleeping well help yourself.

 

PS: Has everyone who was going to leave the country left yet? ;b

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i dont think it would of mattered much who was in power over recent years most of the problems hadn't/couldnt of been predicted and sometimes you just have to make a decision and hope its right and you wont always be right. I dont get why everyone seems to of turned on brown

 

oh, they could have been predicted. infact plenty of people did.....what's uncertain is whether there would

have been the political will to do anything about it whoever was in charge. Even now, there's no political

will to undertake proper reforms...

 

also echo the comments about John Reid....i agreed with absolutely everything he said.

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I have to say my facebook has been going nuts with lots of teachers who where pro gordon! just another thing for them to moan about!!

 

(they work in a area where labour got replaced with tories)

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Or as one wag put it on another forum 'The Conservatives have only been in charge a few hours and already there is a scottish man unemployed and his house taken off him!'
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I have to say my facebook has been going nuts with lots of teachers who where pro gordon! just another thing for them to moan about!!

 

(they work in a area where labour got replaced with tories)

 

I'll proobably get the same here, but then again - we are supposed to be merging with another school under BSF.. Somehow I doubt BSF will survive in its current form now.

I'll probably still get shafted over to RM, but I dont see a new school happening anytime soon - at most it'll be a refurbishment...

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For all those of you who voted Tory........please remember that when you lose your jobs due to devastating Tory Spending cuts, please come and say good bye on the way out and we can give you the 1 fingered salute.

Hope none of you rely too much on Working Families Tax Credits or your kids on EMA..............

 

A sad sad day for Britain, how long before they put Maggie back in front of the cameras????

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Sick and tired of this

"oh lovely, a shiny new government."

..cut to 10/13 or whatever years later...

" They are rotten to the core, get them OUT"

 

We seem to be forever repeating this cycle. Other countries don't, probably due to their not-so-adversarial forms of government. Many european countries have minority governments and they are fine - it means that the Bills brought by the main party don't automatically get voted in - which is what happens in this country.

Despite the Daily Mailish cries of " oh my god, a hung parliament, we're all DOOMED", I would have liked to see the House of Commons as it is - and allow MPs to vote as they feel they should, and not stick rigidly to pary lines even though they feel that something is actually a good idea.

 

As for the coalition - a die-hard Liberal (NOT Social Democrat) like me can never be happy - does this mean that the Lib Dems will *have* to vote with the Tories no matter what?

Scrapping our opposition to Trident - words fail me

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I think we should at least give the ConDems a chance, it will be interesting to see how two parties that so recently loathed each other can suddenly find so much policy common ground, assuming of course it was done for the good of the country and not simply a means of them gaining power; I await with morbid curiosity.

 

Look on the bright side, if it all goes pear-shaped we will have two political parties to blame rather than one :)

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Look on the bright side, if it all goes pear-shaped we will have two political parties to blame rather than one :)

 

 

More to the point - *when* it all goes pear-shaped, the Tory party will have someone to blame rather than themselves.

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Sick and tired of this

"oh lovely, a shiny new government."

..cut to 10/13 or whatever years later...

" They are rotten to the core, get them OUT"

 

We seem to be forever repeating this cycle.

My sentiments exactly.

I've only voted twice in my life, this being the first General Election. It's not like I haven't had the chance, I'm 31, for God's sake. It's purely because of the fact that it ends up in the same situation years down the line. They're all as bad as each other.

 

I liked Clegg this time, though. Hope I can put up with the Torys as well as him.

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How many Conservatives does it take to change a light bulb? Er, isn't that Nick's job?

 

Yeah - 'Deputy Prime Minister' -now there's a poisoned chalice if ever there was one :(

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Posted the below on another forum last night, but it more or less sums up my feelings on this whole coalition thing:-

 

I'm not impressed with those Liberal voters who are crying foul about all this, saying they should have never voted Liberal as all we've got is the Tories. They are totally ignoring the fact that this is the best chance the Liberal party has had and will likely ever have under the current system to get a fair amount of it's policies implemented. Sure they'll lose votes from this but, If the Liberals had stayed out and let the Tories govern alone they would have likely been punished at the next election by an invigorated Labour party and those who thought their liberal vote was wasted at this election anyway. They had to seize this moment and as a Lib Dem voter, I'm fairly happy with this.

 

A Labour coalition simply wouldn't have worked. They would have been reliant on the national parties who would demand their countries be shielded from any public spending cuts and would also have been extremely vulnerable to single MPs crossing the floor or byelections being called for whatever reasons. This would have been a total disaster and would have collapsed in short order. The right wing media would have never let them live down the "Coalition of losers" tag and the Tories would have been returned with a crazy majority at any election after.

I'm also not a fan at all of the way Labour have treat civil liberties like dirt so personally I wouldn't have been happy if they stayed in power and tempered the Liberals policies on them.

 

Comprising between the parties is exactly how governments should work, not owned by a massively powerful single party that feels it can force wacko policies through the commons with little opposition i.e poll tax in the early 90s by the Tories, 90 day without charge/ID Cards with the just passed Labour government. Remember that majority governments in the UK rarely have more than 30/40% of the popular vote and you see how crazy that they can do this.

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Well, I'm truly impressed that we have 2 parties who have had the courage to sit down, degotiate and come up with what looks like a workable solution. Time will tell, but they way they've set out a very detailed agreement and intertwined the parties with government posts for me shows a willingness on both sides to make this work.

I'm probably wrong though, natural party instincts will kick in after a few months and it will all fall apart, but hey, at least they've had the cahunas to try.

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