CyberNerd Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Does anyone know when the next School Guardian is released. I thought it was soon, April? In time for Easter holiday upgrade?
pete Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I think it's "Tom Newton, Tom Newton, Tom Newton" that usually triggers his appearance.
plexer Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Dunno I'm currently trialling their latest auth3 installation and providing feedback on the UI as well. Ben 1
tom_newton Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 There's two upgrades imminent - both "in place" add ons. First, there's the reporting performance & stability improvements, due in days, rather than weeks. Shortly after that is out and we're happy with it, there's the new authentication module, but that is likely to fall just the wrong side of easter :-/ Later in the year we will be replacing out the whole Guardian module, which will be a lot of fun , but your "base OS" will be current for some time to come, as we are still managing to get plenty out of it 1
CyberNerd Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 thanks, It's the new authentication Module that I'm after.
powdarrmonkey Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Shortly after that is out and we're happy with it, there's the new authentication module, but that is likely to fall just the wrong side of easter :-/ Later in the year we will be replacing out the whole Guardian module, which will be a lot of fun , but your "base OS" will be current for some time to come, as we are still managing to get plenty out of it Do you have any details of these? It's the first time I'd heard of either of them.
Popular Post tom_newton Posted March 26, 2010 Popular Post Posted March 26, 2010 Details details.. always with the details Anyways... new auth (aka "auth3"). This si a ground up re-implementation of the auth controller. Basic requirements were: * improve scalability - larger organisations should see a drop in load relating to auth * fix a few long-standing architecture issues * allow configuration of multiple different directories * some interface rework to make config easier * group "precedence" to help with users who have >1 group * limited per-user filtering * auth method by proxy-port: use NTLM on port 800 and ident or SSL auth on port 900, for example - for those with machines that disagree with ntlm Then... later on, new guardian, which again, is a complete rearchitecting of the whole module. These projects have both been ongoing for a LONG time whilst we've also been writing flash filters and other fun for you . Some of the new bits here: Architecture: * again, more scalable, each instance being able to handle 10k connections/sec * redesign of the thread architecture to reduce process overhead * lower memory footprint and better scaling of RAM usage in general * zero-impact policy and URL filtering changes for rapidly changing (eg. automated) filter jobs * plugin based for fun future upgrades Blocking: * improved classifier, making results more accurate * new antimalware engine * better handling of SSL connections (more on this as I get it... there's a lot of "what ifs" in this bit) Policy: * new policy engine with re-orderable rules * location based policy (less filtering for users depending where they log in) * (possibly) time periods with holes in * true multi-group membership * full per-user filtering * soft block as an "action" UI: * partial redesign * wizards for common tasks * (maybe in a slightly later update) policy testing page Auth: * authentication method based on location (IP) This is all off the top of my head, so I may have missed some bits. Any input gratefully received. I'll be calling some of you to show you UI mockups soon for the guardian UI. If anyone particularly fancies being bothered by me... let me know 6
pwds Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 What engine did you go with Tom? Interested in what "soft block as an action" means. How granular will allowed times be- many lessons don't run neatly to half or quarter hours. Generally looking exciting
tom_newton Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 pwds - it's all our own tackle, none of what's in Guardian or Auth is produced anywhere but in an office just east of southampton - no "bought in" engines Only our email filter is currently a 3rd party commercial component, though the new antimalware will also be an external company. Soft block as an action will allow you to use "coach" or "warning page mode" (we call it "soft block") on certain categories, for certain people, at your option. Time controls are currently one-minute granular. This will get no worse, though I can't see it getting any better ;-P
pwds Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 So soft block is more granular but otherwise more or less the same as at the moment? The quotes around "action" threw me, probably as I've not read through your documentation to understand your use of terminology. Looking forward to the release.
tom_newton Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Indeed. Right now soft-block is "all or nothing". We also hope to standardise on terms like "action" and produce a glossary of same.
Stuart_C Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) Time controls are currently one-minute granular. This will get no worse, though I can't see it getting any better ;-P But what if I wanted to switch on my locked down the internet 30 seconds before school! You mean I CANT do that?!??!? :D I got told Auth3 was about 3 weeks away. Edited March 26, 2010 by Stuart_C
tom_newton Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 3 weeks is probably accurate - hard to tell though, we have to fully release the reporting fixes first, but the guys have all but finished auth, bar final tests and packaging.
john Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 As part of these Tom is there the fix for Postgres getting a little bit carried away, I'm nearly remember all the lines of code to brutally murder Postgres and revive it
contink Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 @Tom: Couple of things... 1. Have you implemented more of an Ajax front end to avoid the heavy page refresh-ness of the current GUI? 2. You guys around Monday for that chat? Ta...
tom_newton Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 @john - yes - TimR is just putting the last touches on that, the new performance curve is pretty good. You should have it in a week or so. @contink - we're doing a whole new GUI for the next major "base" release, which will be very ajax flavoured. In the mean time we are going to try and keep the page refreshes down. Monday is fine, although i'm out in the afternoon, and Rob's at Sulzer doing an install at some point, so if you are popping in, give me a call first or you might get stuck with the sales folk 1
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