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Hi,

 

I've just built a new computer for a Dept Head at one of our schools. He has 2 x 300GB SAS Drives in RAID 1 for his system drive.

 

Would it be quicker to put them in RAID 0 or keep them in RAID 1?

 

Im hoping for top scores on W7 Performance, what do you recon?

 

D

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Antec 900 Case

Antec 650W PSU

Asus P6T6 WS Revolution Mobo

Intel i7 930 2.88Ghz

6GB Hyper-X 1866Mhz DDR3

Gigabyte GTS-250

2 x 300GB SAS 6GB/s HDD's RAID 1

 

It's a decent spec! :)

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As stevenwba says, Raid 0 should be quicker overall (read/write) but if any disk fails then you lose all data.

 

Yeah I understand the problems with RAID 0, I'm going to advise he sticks to RAID 1. I hope it gets good scores!

 

D

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What was the reason for SAS above SATA?

 

i was just about the ask that, also the dept head wants the good score??

 

my home pc atm is rocking 2.3 lol (:

 

need to upgrade put that spec is insane for a school machine :p

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What kind of price does a 300Gb SAS drive come in at these days? I've not looked at benckmarks but from seeing the performance of the (mirrored - RAID 1)SAS drives in our blade servers it looks like they'd be substantially quicker than a SATA drive.

 

Would be interesting to see how they compare with solid state in terms of boot times/etc?

Posted

Doesnt look like a bad build, in fact if the user is only going to use it for normal usage it seems above and beyond whats needed.

 

Im sure the benchmark will come out well.

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The guy just likes his gadgets and this is just another one.

 

He already has a PC running SAS and has got exceptional performance from the drives already so decided this one should be SAS too. They rate at about £200 for one of these which is 15k rpm.

 

I must admit they are very quick these SAS drives. He tried 2 x SSD 2.5" drives in a laptop that was uber quick lol but the drives did cost like £500 each! :eek:

 

D

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The guy just likes his gadgets and this is just another one.

 

He already has a PC running SAS and has got exceptional performance from the drives already so decided this one should be SAS too. They rate at about £200 for one of these which is 15k rpm.

 

I must admit they are very quick these SAS drives. He tried 2 x SSD 2.5" drives in a laptop that was uber quick lol but the drives did cost like £500 each! :eek:

 

D

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs]YouTube- Samsung SSD Awesomeness[/ame]

 

This is so the future though!

 

:D

 

Having a smaller SSD as an OS drive really makes the PC so responsive can always shift the user folders onto a RAID1 drive after.

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This is so the future though!

 

:D

 

Having a smaller SSD as an OS drive really makes the PC so responsive can always shift the user folders onto a RAID1 drive after.

 

Oh yeah it was like Sh*t of a shovel the laptop running SSD in RAID booted in like 2 seconds, we were impressed!

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The guy just likes his gadgets and this is just another one.

 

He already has a PC running SAS and has got exceptional performance from the drives already so decided this one should be SAS too. They rate at about £200 for one of these which is 15k rpm.

 

I must admit they are very quick these SAS drives. He tried 2 x SSD 2.5" drives in a laptop that was uber quick lol but the drives did cost like £500 each! :eek:

 

D

 

Yeah the price of SSD is way expensive and for very little storage space too. Man i cant even get a high spec pc to do high end work and someone is getting a good spec just because.

 

Making the assumption here that this PC was school property.. is it? or is it the deputy's computer that your building?

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Stretch the budget a bit more and get a third hard disk! - Looking at the spec that motherboard supports Raid 5, so you'd get the speed and some redundancy.

 

Steve

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Yeah the price of SSD is way expensive and for very little storage space too. Man i cant even get a high spec pc to do high end work and someone is getting a good spec just because.

 

Making the assumption here that this PC was school property.. is it? or is it the deputy's computer that your building?

 

It's a personal build for him purchased privately.

 

Stretch the budget a bit more and get a third hard disk! - Looking at the spec that motherboard supports Raid 5, so you'd get the speed and some redundancy.

 

Steve

 

 

There are only 2 SAS connectors though so could not use SAS and RAID 5 :( would have been nice. Could buy a seperate card though.

 

D

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In some circumstances RAID1 can be faster than RAID5 due to RAID5's increased overhead. Edited by Jamo
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In some circumstances RAID1 can be faster than RAID5 due to its increased overhead.

 

You speak true words Jamo, I had this conversation with the head support guy at Fujitsu a few weeks back down in Bracknell, and he was saying that you shouldn't store your SQL log files on RAID 5 because it can slow the system down as it can't handle the throughput needed so its better to stick them on a RAID 0 or RAID 1.

 

D

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The spec of your pc is similar to one i built at the weekend, apart from the one i built had a 80Gb intel SSD, it got a score of 7.5 in windows, mighty quick for under £200.
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Slightly OT, but am I right in thinking that RAID1 will give you faster read (especially with larger files) and RAID0 faster write?

 

Does the actual relative change vary much with controllers as well, compared to having the same drives in a non array setup will the performance difference always be of the same magnitude? (Taking for example two PCI-E x 16 RAID cards so the bus bandwidth is constant)

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RAID0 should be faster in most cases, RAID5 is supposed to be slower as it involves calculations of parity etc which RAID0 doesn't.

 

RAID0 stripes data effectively storing one half on one physical media adn one half on the other.

 

RAID10 is becoming more popular which is RAID1 volumes striped requires 4 disks min but has the best of both worlds.

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