MiniNova goes legit.....

[Rawns]

BBC News - Court ruling forces Mininova to end illegal torrents

 

The Netherlands-based file-sharing website Mininova has removed all torrents that enabled users to download copyright-protected material. The move follows a ruling in a Netherlands district court three months ago ordering the firm to remove links to illegal content.

 

TPB is sinking fast and now Mininova is on the way out! Where will I get my weekly Heroes fix?!

 

Discuss.... (the Beeb article, not where I will get my Heroes fix from! )

[localzuk]

Just another head on the hydra.

[Michael]

I don't think the issue of piracy will go away, however I suspect the next 'move' will be distributing torrents in a different fashion. It's interesting how it's taken so long though as the film and music industry must have literally lost billions of pounds/dollars.

[Guest Guest]

It's interesting how it's taken so long though as the film and music industry must have literally lost billions of pounds/dollars.

 

can... of.... worms... open.....

[gshaw]

I wonder when they'll start going after Rapidshare? I'd imagine an encrypted RS service with larger download space would really start raking the £££ in... if they can make it so no-one can check what links you visit then they have a winner on their hands...

[JJonas]

 

TPB is sinking fast and now Mininova is on the way out! Where will I get my weekly Heroes fix?!

 

 

How about on TV?

[localzuk]

It's interesting how it's taken so long though as the film and music industry must have literally lost billions of pounds/dollars.

 

That's a point of contention there... Several studies have now come out and shown that many 'pirates' buy more music/films/etc than those who don't.

 

It fails to take into account those who do a 'try before I buy' method of doing things.

 

I've 'pirated' a bit (not so much now, as BT Vision is brilliant), and buy and rent an awful lot of music and dvds (although, with music now, I simply pay a tenner a month to spotify).

 

Much of the pirating is their own fault to be honest. Why do they release things later in certain places and not in others? Much of the pirating in the UK is now of TV shows that are released in the USA 6 months before the UK. Why??

 

The movie industry tries to control too much, it is now actually just damaging their own business.

Edited November 27, 2009 by localzuk
feel like i'm justifying myself. removed money bits as i'm not

[Theblacksheep]

the film and music industry must have literally lost billions of pounds/dollars.

 

Or they've lost nothing.

 

Considering profits for music, film, games and dvd sales are up, it could be argued its been helping sales.

 

 

@raws eztv

Edited November 27, 2009 by Theblacksheep

[gshaw]

Well said localzuk... if they made the distribution fair (and cheaper) then there would be no market for pirates anyway. If you fight the users and set traps there will always be a better mouse

[sandeep2504]

Something else will come up; i remember when supernova was shutdown it was the end of the world!

 

File sharing sites such as rapidshare have become a popular alternative to torrents.

 

I think music/movie companies are slowly starting to get with the times.

[Michael]

That's a point of contention there... Several studies have now come out and shown that many 'pirates' buy more music/films/etc than those who don't.

 

Just because studies are conducted it doesn't mean they're accurate. The point is if I am wrong then why are these industries asking for these websites to be taken down? I can't really see many people admitting they're a real life Knock of Nigel

[Theblacksheep]

Just because studies are conducted it doesn't mean they're accurate. The point is if I am wrong then why are these industries asking for these websites to be taken down?

 

It doesnt mean the numbers the record companies produce are accurate either. They have an interest with inflating numbers especially with regards to theoretical "revenue loss". Ignore the fact they had record profits last year.

 

 

 

Anyway, why?

 

money, more of it and control of their product....

 

You are not allowed to see that until 2011, even though its available everywhere else.

How are you gonna get big advertising dollars for a series climax when people have already seen it?

Edited November 27, 2009 by Theblacksheep

[Michael]

Well the way I look at things - once the music industry were not keen on the introduction of downloadable music. DRM has come and is disappearing, and many online music retailers allow you to stream previews, so the need to torrent music is a poor one really.

 

The music industry is indeed changing rapidly and in my opinion more revenue will be made from live gigs. You still get people recording it on their phones on youtube, but we all know you can't beat a real live gig.

[Guest Guest]

... the need to torrent music is a poor one really.

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Where do you think most/alot of the bedroom producers get their software to make the music in the first place? Do you really think they all pay £1000+ on software just to see if they are good enough?

 

Is this a problem, and does it result in less sales for the software developer? Well no not really. Once the producer gets signed up he will buy the software he used, or at the least he will use the record companies licences.

[AyatollahPies]

But when the US are up to S04E11 and the beeb wont be showing it until 2010 you can see why.

 

It's the same the other way. Americans wouldn't be able to get their fix of shows such as Doctor Who.

 

What has a Southampton post code got to do with it?

[tmcd35]

There are a number of things the studios/producers can do to stem piracy but for some reason they don't. For TV shows they can look at better tie ups so the UK and US showings are closer together. For movies they can bring the price and increase the availabilty of legal downloads - £14 for Blu-Ray or £14 for a iTunes download is OTT!. Then their is rentals at £3.50 a go! Ouch. The technology is there to stream (aka iPlayer) rented movies and do it at a better price - £2 or less per streaming).

 

Look at what iTunes has done to music piracy. It didn't stop it because the prices stills seem over inflated, but it did reduce the proble some what. Bringing legal music downloads to a more sensible 49p would probably do a lot. Also working with likes of spotify and promoting streaming services more will help no end.

 

It's seems to me that the music/movie industries prefer to moan about lost revenue rather than tackle the problem head on and provide compeling serviced the consumer would be happy paying for.