fiza Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 yeah I couldnt logon..but clicked blogs and there was shutdown software link in there somewhere..downloaded and runs perfectly. Got a scheduled task set within group policy to run it. PERFECT! Thanks save a fortune with these staff who are too lazy to shutdown each night. Does it work when a user has locked the machine beforehand? Our users tend to lock the machine and then go home.
cuester Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 The best free standalone shut down program I've seen ( and use in all my seven schools) is poweroff. It's an exe that let's you create a service that shuts down the machine at a certain time. You can also configure it to pop up with a notice that states that the machine is shutting down and to cancel this action press cancel.
fiza Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 The best free standalone shut down program I've seen ( and use in all my seven schools) is poweroff. It's an exe that let's you create a service that shuts down the machine at a certain time. You can also configure it to pop up with a notice that states that the machine is shutting down and to cancel this action press cancel. How does it cope with locked machines?
edutech4schools Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Just got shutdownTool up and running How does it cope with locked machines? I noticed in the task scheduler you have the option to run even if nobody is logged in. I need to work how to only get the software to run when in school and not if a teacher takes a laptop home. Any ideas?
fiza Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Just got shutdownTool up and running I noticed in the task scheduler you have the option to run even if nobody is logged in. I need to work how to only get the software to run when in school and not if a teacher takes a laptop home. Any ideas? But if the machine is locked then someone is logged on.
caffrey Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Anyone have issues with shutdown scripts that sometimes leaves machines without a logon screen the next morning ? ctrl-alt-del brings it back. It's quite random and I can't replicate it during the holidays. (XP) Edited May 21, 2013 by caffrey
edutech4schools Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 But if the machine is locked then someone is logged on. You might want to look at the GP preferences / control panel / scheduled tasks. It has options like 'run weather a user is logged in or not' 'run with higher privelges' Would have thought (but not tried) that it must be possible. Also not sure what /f = (Forces the chosen action) would do which is part of the ShutdownTool.
sparkeh Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Just thinking through using the Config Manager Shutdown Utility with SCCM. If you advertise a shutdown at say... 5pm, aren't all the computers that were off pick up the advert the next day when they power on, and then shut down?
Norphy Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 You could always set up maintenance windows and make sure that it doesn't run outside of those. Of course, that would bugger up anything else you've got going inside maintenance windows
sparkeh Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 You could always set up maintenance windows and make sure that it doesn't run outside of those. Of course, that would bugger up anything else you've got going inside maintenance windows Gah! There's always something! Might be easier to use a scheduled task as per @edutech4schools suggestion
ChrisN-0123 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I'm having trouble getting the gui to show on the scheduled task, even with interact with desktop ticked on task scheduler service. Going to play some more on this tomorrow.
sparkeh Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Shutdownertron @powdarrmonkey Does this work with win 7? Don't think that he ever released the promised version for this. I'll try and catch him to find out, don't think he visits the site anymore. 1
mac_shinobi Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Does this work with win 7? Don't think that he ever released the promised version for this. I'll try and catch him to find out, don't think he visits the site anymore. Like you said although it does state partial win 7 support on the site ??
sparkeh Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Just thinking through using the Config Manager Shutdown Utility with SCCM. If you advertise a shutdown at say... 5pm, aren't all the computers that were off pick up the advert the next day when they power on, and then shut down? Duh! Helps to read the arguments file. You can specify some options when not to run the shutdown, eg time past since last shutdown is greater/less then a set amount. That should sort the problem.
ChrisN-0123 Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) I'm running that Coretech shutdown tool for logged on users.. but i'm also running a shutdown vbs script that will shutdown any computers left on, but logged off. Find this with a LOT of student computers where the teacher hasnt bothered to shut them down. Works perfect! I've added it to task scheduler to shutdown at 4pm and again later in case some are here later, but fail to shutdown. '* Script Name: ShutDownIfNotLoggedOn - Local.vbs '* Created On: 12/13/2007 '* Author: Michael C. Panagos '* Website: Real solutions shouldn't be hard to find - The Grim Admin '* Purpose: Script to get current user logged on and perform shutdown on computer if no one is logged on '* History: Michael C. Panagos 12/13/2007 '* Initial Draft. '* Legal: Copying and distribution of this code, with or without modification, '* are permitted in any medium without royalty provided the copyright '* notice and this notice are preserved. This code is offered as-is, '* without any warranty. 'Account used to run script needs WMI permissions to shut down computer. 'Set error capture On Error Resume Next 'Get local computer name Set wshNetwork = WScript.CreateObject( "WScript.Network" ) strComputerName = wshNetwork.ComputerName 'strComputerName = "ComputerABC" 'For testing specific computer 'Setup WMI calling for logon name and shutdown assignment Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" _ & "{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputerName & "\root\cimv2") 'Get currently logged on user's username Set colComputer = objWMIService.ExecQuery _ ("Select * from Win32_ComputerSystem") For Each objComputer in colComputer If IsNull(objComputer.UserName) Then 'If no one is logged on strLoggedOn = "No" Else strLoggedOn = "Yes" End If Next 'If no one is logged on shut down the computer If strLoggedOn = "No" Then For each objOperatingSystem in GetObject("winmgmts:{(Shutdown)}!").InstancesOf("Win32_OperatingSystem") objOperatingSystem.Win32Shutdown 1 Next End If Edited May 23, 2013 by ChrisN-0123
edutech4schools Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 I thought that if you had the scheduled task set to login as an admin and with elevated perms you could run Coretech shutdown tool when not logged in. When I get a chance I will test, as that is a much simpler method.
cuester Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 I have poweroff running fine with windows 7 machines as well as locked down workstations
Minkus Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) I have just set up a scheduled task via Group Policy Preferences, which detects if anyone is logged on, and if not, shuts down the machine when it is idle. This is all without scripting etc - performed entirely with built-in Windows tools and Windows Batch FTW! Control Panel Settings/Scheduled Tasks New Scheduled Task (Windows Vista and later) Action: Replace (required to be able to remove it when it falls out of policy) Name: Shutdown on Idle When running the task, use the following user account: NT AUTHORITY\System (just enter 'System' in the selection box) (Run only when user is logged on - default - works fine) (No need to run with highest privileges - works fine) Triggers... New Trigger -> On idle Repeat task every: 5 minutes For a duration of: Indefinitely (catch cases where the user logon state changes while still idle) (Activate: set to the time we created the task) Actions... New Action -> Start a program Program/script: %ComSpec% Add arguments: /C "for /f "tokens=* usebackq" %i IN (`%WINDIR%\system32\wbem\wmic.exe ComputerSystem GET UserName /value ^| findstr /X "UserName="`) DO "%WINDIR%\system32\shutdown.exe" -s -t 60" (This command will run 'wmic.exe ComputerSystem GET UserName to detect if a user is logged on, and if the UserName field is blank, run the system shutdown) Conditions... Start the task only if the computer is idle for: 15 minutes (Can't get the idle timeout any lower than 15 minutes, as Windows only checks the state that often - [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa383561(v=vs.85).aspx[/url]) Wait for idle for: Do not wait Stop if the computer ceases to be idle Settings... (Allow task to be run on demand - for testing) Common... Remove this item when it is no longer appliedHope this might help some other people trying to achieve the same thing. As it says in the notes, it's hard to get the idle timeout any lower than 15 minutes, as Windows only checks the 'Idle' state itself that often. If you start up a machine and then wait for it to shut down, it usually takes about 26 minutes to do so - this is probably due to Windows not checking the idle state for at least 15 minutes after startup, plus the idle time itself. However if you wait it does work, and seems fine on all our computers so far. Edited November 4, 2013 by Minkus 1
HPlum78 Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) Earlier in this post someone showed some PowerShell, you can do both with PS Stop-Computer will shutdown computers and along with Get-Content you could put the names of all the computers in a file and have it shutdown whole networks, or you could do something more sophisticated and create an array out of AD with the names of the workstations then I suppose you could test if they are powered up and if a users is logged in and the like (although Stop-Computer will throw an exception if a user is logged on and you don't use the -Force) all not so difficult if you spend a little time. Use along side WOL starter for 10 here Script Send WOL packet using Powershell again don't take much to make the script get MAC addresses from AD/ DHCP. PowerShell is your friend here and can save some money and I think if you give it a little thought you can make a solution that works well for your network needs rather then trying to make an off the shelf solution do what you want. Edited November 5, 2013 by HPlum78
kennysarmy Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 Look in to DataSynergy PowerMAN software. We are saving around £100-150 per week and the software will pay for itself easily within 6 months....
techman Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Will any of the above work in powering off the monitor as well?
cuester Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Will any of the above work in powering off the monitor as well? Poweroff will work in powering off monitors as well as the workstation
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