gshaw Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Seeing as it looks like we're going to be storing student data in some form or another now I need to find a decent priced storage device to put it on. Working on worst case scenario... 8000 students x 50MB each = 400GB but it's likely to be more like a quarter of that in reality I'd say, possibly even less so don't need to go too mad on that side of things. At the moment the network is still physical boxes and not being replaced for another year or 2 (5-year replacement cycle for server kit) so no SAN about as yet. Any suggestions for something suitable? We're HP for server kit usually so it'd probably be that route unless it's a NAS appliance of some sort?
Hebdenlad Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Seeing as it looks like we're going to be storing student data in some form or another now I need to find a decent priced storage device to put it on. Working on worst case scenario... 8000 students x 50MB each = 400GB but it's likely to be more like a quarter of that in reality I'd say, possibly even less so don't need to go too mad on that side of things. At the moment the network is still physical boxes and not being replaced for another year or 2 (5-year replacement cycle for server kit) so no SAN about as yet. Any suggestions for something suitable? We're HP for server kit usually so it'd probably be that route unless it's a NAS appliance of some sort? Sun Storage 7000 Unified Storage Systems - Amber Road Overview give me a call if you need to talk about this.... cheers, Phil
IanT Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 I've just built a Dell NAS lately - look on there web site in the education section.
richard2233 Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 When you say your going to have to store data, do you mean your going to create network mapped drives? or is it individual user areas for users? And How much you looking at spending?
maf_001 Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 I used to use a Dell PE 2900 for a storage drive for student data. Spec: 2* Quad 2.4Ghz 8Gb RAM Dell Perc 5i Card 5* 146Gb SAS - For data 2* 74GB SAS - for OS 2* 1Gb Ethernet This work great for me, I had 1500 pupils with over 600 pupil computers which got used all the time, I wouldnt go splashing your money on a fancy SAN or NAS box when you can buy a proper box that will give you the proformace you are looking for. I would imagine you can get a HP box with a simlair spec, i would just change the HDD config to suit your needs. When the server got backed up it pulled over 1GB a min from the drives, the added bonus if you can run windows search on the student data during the day with no problems Hope this helps Mark
ServersPlus Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Feel free to give me a call if you want some advice & suggestions on this - We sell a lot of storage solutions to schools and businesses and can help you get the perfect kit for your needs Cheers
dan400007 Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 I'm in the process of setting up a couple of the cheap HP ML115 servers with 4x1Tb HDD in RAID 1+0, then using DFSR to keep each one up to date. Total cost was about £1000 for 2 servers with the following spec: AMD 2.1Ghz Quad Core 8Gb RAM 4x1Tb SATA HDD in RAID 1+0, 1.87Tb Usable space Intel Dual Port 1000PT, Teamed for 2Gb Suprisingly quick too and should provide near full redundancy for the data. RAID on the HDD Separate UPS Each connected to two switches DFSR replicating between them
gshaw Posted July 6, 2009 Author Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Ah yeah forgot to mention... anything but Dell Basically it's looking like we'll give our students (all part-time and some much more part time than others!) a space to store their files as until now there's a shared area that just fills up with junk! Tbh I can't see there being masses of data on there so probably don't need to go too mad, the normal server with stacked up HDs sounds like a good way to go I think... Edited July 6, 2009 by gshaw
onehundredwatt Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 If you know a good linux geek you could build an OpenFiler iSCSI SAN Openfiler — Openfiler - Open Source Storage Management Appliance
plexer Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 You don't need to know a linux geek to use openfiler, download iso and install on to your hardware, it's not exactly difficult and the you get a web management console for it. Ben
CyberNerd Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) I really don't think you need to go overkill with the spec of file servers. ours is a virtualmachine, it runs very fast and the load on it is extremely low. Our bare metal server is a dualxeon 8GB but with 1800 users and 600 computers. the spec of the virtualmachine is as follows: 1500MB (never seems to use more than 512MB) edit: 2 [email protected]. Average usage is around = 1987MHz 2 * 1GB/s ethernet 64bit RedHat Enterprise 4GB FC SAN (10k SATA) nightly virusscanning is the only thing that really stretches it. If you buy an 8GB dual quadcore you and use it just as a fileserver you are being ripped off. Edited July 7, 2009 by CyberNerd
gshaw Posted July 7, 2009 Author Posted July 7, 2009 Actually thinking about it for this year I should be OK with using the file server that's there at the moment... 8000 users given say 10MB each would be 80GB but I doubt we'll even have a quarter of those users logging in so the 100GB I've got spare should do for now then depending on space I guess review it next year along with server replacements...
Butuz Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Suprisingly quick too and should provide near full redundancy for the data. RAID on the HDD Separate UPS Each connected to two switches DFSR replicating between them What about cache and battery back up on the RAID card? Butuz
pcstru Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Any suggestions for something suitable? We're HP for server kit usually so it'd probably be that route unless it's a NAS appliance of some sort? We bought a couple of Thecus i4500r devices populated with 4x1TB drives. They were only intended as secondary storage and replicating user shares from our SAN. However, we've just suffered a major failure on the SAN disk array, so the thecus devices have now stepped up to the plate and are performing remarkably well. They're a bit more robust than a cheap NAS (twin power supplies and network cards provide some failover), offer iSCSI and are configured via a web interface. Price is around £1500 populated with enterprise spec SATA drives to 4TB.
JamieM Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 Hi there, right now I’m using the StarWind server on my shared storage, I suggest you test their trial, is amazing. iSCSI SAN Solution - StarWind Enterprise Server - StarWind Jamie
john Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 Sun Storage 7000 Unified Storage Systems - Amber Road Overview give me a call if you need to talk about this.... cheers, Phil I agree about this, eegerly awaiting the delivery of my box
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