apeo Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Just wondered how long this take or should take for everyone else (network logons).
lionsl2005 Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 normally it should take 1-2 miniutes when first log on to load the roaming profiles. if connecting through wireless might be bit longer. 1
button_ripple Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Loading takes about 5-20 seconds (pupil accounts), staff take longer (up to 3 minutes). The applying your personal settings box, only flashes up briefly on pupil accounts (not long enough to read what it says). With staff it can stay for up to 20 seconds. 1
elsiegee40 Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 It depends on the profile size... The kids' Mandatory profiles whizz through; staff roaming profiles vary depending on how much they've listened to me rabbitting on about not saving things onto their desktops! 2
Psymon Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 It depends on the profile size... The kids' Mandatory profiles whizz through; staff roaming profiles vary depending on how much they've listened to me rabbitting on about not saving things onto their desktops! Can redirect desktops on vista
apeo Posted June 26, 2009 Author Posted June 26, 2009 I take a nap. It takes 20-25 secs to apply personal settings here and it dont seem to matter if its wired or wireless. I've stripped it down to just domain policy and its still the same time. Was wondering if i could speed it up some how.
featured_spectre Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Dont have roaming profiles. All have generic profiles which reset after every log off/log on. All documents saves default to U:\ (for staff) and H:\ (for kids). Staff have logins which are just there initials (EO, JH, etc) but if 2 have the same initials, we then include 2nd letter of surname (KSh, KSu). Roaming profiles causes nothing but aggro here as we had 1 member of staff having a roaming profile of 9GB!!!
matt40k Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Turn off offline files, exclude directorys like application data\adobe Put a profile limit on, see what it's loading.
maniac Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Re-direct application data and desktop folders to the member of staffs home folder, makes a world of difference to the speed the profile loads at. The main reason for slow logins is teachers saving anything and everything to their desktop, because the desktop is normally part of the profile and few people re-direct it, whenever you logon or logoff it drags the entire folder over the network.
apeo Posted June 26, 2009 Author Posted June 26, 2009 Is there a way to see what happens during applying personal settings? The profiles are mandatory and only 1.5 meg.
srochford Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Can redirect desktops on vista and on XP. It's been recommended by Microsoft for quite a long time!
srochford Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Is there a way to see what happens during applying personal settings? The profiles are mandatory and only 1.5 meg. Turn on "userenv debug logging" - you'll then get a log file telling you what's happening. 1
Pottsey Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 30 seconds unless its the first time on that PC then 40 to 50seconds. 1
webman Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 About 35 seconds for a new roaming profile on the workstation, and then about 5-10 seconds for that user afterwards. 1
elsiegee40 Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Is there a way to see what happens during applying personal settings? The profiles are mandatory and only 1.5 meg. You may find this thread helpful... http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows/18661-creating-small-mandatory-profile.html
apeo Posted June 29, 2009 Author Posted June 29, 2009 You may find this thread helpful... http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows/18661-creating-small-mandatory-profile.html Yeah I looked there before i started this thread. @srochford: Thanks for the advise, i've redirect everything already and i'm having a look at the log. I think i might be something in the ntuser.man thats causing a delay but not sure what yet. @webman: nice logon times, how do you do it? especially as you have roaming profiles..
webman Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 @webman: nice logon times, how do you do it? especially as you have roaming profiles.. We just have a standard RM CC3 network, nothing special. In fact, it will be 7 years old this December.
apeo Posted June 29, 2009 Author Posted June 29, 2009 Ok in the log I've found the ~ 20 sec delay but it doesnt point to why. USERENV(690.908) 11:56:02:798 LibMain: Process Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe USERENV(3fc.f88) 11:56:22:814 UserPolicyCallback: Setting status UI to Applying your personal Any ideas anyone?
DMcCoy Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Ok in the log I've found the ~ 20 sec delay but it doesnt point to why. USERENV(690.908) 11:56:02:798 LibMain: Process Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe USERENV(3fc.f88) 11:56:22:814 UserPolicyCallback: Setting status UI to Applying your personal Any ideas anyone? XP SP3? XP SP2 had a hotfix to fix a 20 second logon delay with redirected folders, but this is included in SP3.
apeo Posted June 30, 2009 Author Posted June 30, 2009 Ok it does seem that the IE7 problem still exist in SP3 over here and I've tried to download the hotfix but i get an internal server error. Can someone try the download: http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Internet%20Explorer%207%20for%20XPSP2/sp3/Fix205665/2600/free/323901_ENU_i386_zip.exe
ZeroHour Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 apeo also remember you can use verbose logon message in GP. That file download works for me too btw. Can you post what you have redirected? There is a SP3 issue with redirected folders too. 1
apeo Posted June 30, 2009 Author Posted June 30, 2009 apeo also remember you can use verbose logon message in GP. That file download works for me too btw. Can you post what you have redirected? There is a SP3 issue with redirected folders too. Ah ok that will help trace any other potentail profile issues. Could you upload it somewhere so i can download it. We have currently desktop, start menu and home dirs redirected. App data may be next.
apeo Posted June 30, 2009 Author Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) Ok the download just decided to work.. maybe i was too quick for MS and the download wasnt there at the time.. EDIT: Ok apparently this is supposed to be fixed in sp3 so the hotfix i downloaded wont work. The error seens to be the same tho.. Edited June 30, 2009 by apeo
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