Approx Costs for new ICT Suite

[FragglePete]

Looks like I'm going to be asked to put together a new ICT ready for next September. So I'm going to have to work out rough costings.

 

Any ideas (or what have people spent recently) on kitting out a new Suite?

 

It's not just the PC's, but obviously Data & Power (with appropriate infrastructure), Projector, Whiteboard, Amp, Speakers, Air Con, Software Licencing, Printers, etc.

 

So, how much have you guys spent on a new room?

 

Cheers in advance

 

Pete

[webman]

How many PCs?

[FragglePete]

How many PCs?

 

 

Approx 30.

 

Pete

[ahuxham]

You should in theory look at £500 a machine, including monitor. There are the costs for electricity, cabling, switches, desks. Cover licenses per machine, and tally up a rough costing, all these features and your looking at around £600 per machine including cabling.

 

We have total Volume License here, anything we buy is VL, so we never factor this into anything.

 

Printer (HP2605n), we seem to use these in all our ICT suites, they do the job, and are quite adequate!

 

Projector, IWB, Switches = Another cost £1200 for IWB, £400 or that mark for a decent 2000,2200 lumen projector. Switch? Managed quite heft, unmanaged, shouldn't be a problem

[featured_spectre]

30 PC's. Requirements should be around

 

Dual Core 2.4GHz

128MB GFX Card

2GB Ram

80GB - 160 GB HDD

17inch TFT Monitor

Windows XP Pro

MS Office 2003 / Open Office 3.0

 

Thats the bare minimum for PC's in our school, and we pay around £300 per PC for that.

 

Factor in a new switch cabinet, a new switch, all the data cabling, power supplies to be created, Projector, IWB, Attaching PC's to AD (because I hate doing it! lol), your cost per PC will round up to approximately £1800 per machine, to be fully installed, data cabled etc etc.

 

so 30x£1800 = £54000 and thats a good estimate, so say £65000 for any abnormalities and you should get a whole room converted to be an ICT suite for that.

[Snuffkins]

30 PC's. Requirements should be around

 

Dual Core 2.4GHz

128MB GFX Card

2GB Ram

80GB - 160 GB HDD

17inch TFT Monitor

Windows XP Pro

MS Office 2003 / Open Office 3.0

 

Thats the bare minimum for PC's in our school, and we pay around £300 per PC for that.

 

Factor in a new switch cabinet, a new switch, all the data cabling, power supplies to be created, Projector, IWB, Attaching PC's to AD (because I hate doing it! lol), your cost per PC will round up to approximately £1800 per machine, to be fully installed, data cabled etc etc.

 

so 30x£1800 = £54000 and thats a good estimate, so say £65000 for any abnormalities and you should get a whole room converted to be an ICT suite for that.

 

 

I'd have to agree with that cost to be honest including benching, seating and security. And if it's anything like our building check how much it'll cost to get the room on the alarm system, lol. I think around the 50k mark is a pretty good guess. It's also worth checking you have enough capacity on the power distribution boards etc.

[wesleyw]

£300 per machine

£31 per office license

£25 per bench (you could just use kitchen surface and decent metal legs if you needed to cut costs and the DT dept. or site management could install them for you?)

£25 per chair

£100 per double electrical socket

£50 per network point

£2000 for IWB install

£500 for the switch

£180 for the wall mounted cabinet

£1000 Fibre back to main cab

 

Should be alright.

 

£19,610 so round up to £25,000 for any unforeseen issues

[ahuxham]

£300 per machine

£31 per office license

£25 per bench (you could just use kitchen surface and decent metal legs if you needed to cut costs and the DT dept. or site management could install them for you?)

£25 per chair

£100 per double electrical socket

£50 per network point

£2000 for IWB install

£500 for the switch

£180 for the wall mounted cabinet

£1000 Fibre back to main cab

 

Should be alright.

 

£19,610 so round up to £25,000 for any unforeseen issues

 

How is that future proof.... £300 for a machine and monitor? What spec are you going to get with that?

 

£150 for a double power socket and network socket? Thats way over estimated. Thats £4500 for the room.....

[wesleyw]

30 PC's. Requirements should be around

 

Dual Core 2.4GHz

128MB GFX Card

2GB Ram

80GB - 160 GB HDD

17inch TFT Monitor

Windows XP Pro

MS Office 2003 / Open Office 3.0

 

Thats the bare minimum for PC's in our school, and we pay around £300 per PC for that.

 

Factor in a new switch cabinet, a new switch, all the data cabling, power supplies to be created, Projector, IWB, Attaching PC's to AD (because I hate doing it! lol), your cost per PC will round up to approximately £1800 per machine, to be fully installed, data cabled etc etc.

 

so 30x£1800 = £54000 and thats a good estimate, so say £65000 for any abnormalities and you should get a whole room converted to be an ICT suite for that.

 

First it depends where your going and you're saying I'm over estimating at £4500 when there are people on here saying £65,000 would be a reasonable estimate and I'm saying £25,000? Oh dear.

 

 

Wes

[Guest Guest]

How is that future proof.... £300 for a machine and monitor? What spec are you going to get with that?

 

Hey we dont pay much more than that. Companies like Stone computers do decent specs at decent prices although there are things like tagging/branding which arnt quite up to the same standard as the likes of Dell.

 

You can actually get a 22' monitor for around £80 now! Leaving you £220 for the base unit, which lets be honest, is more than enough for most applications now.

[dhicks]

128MB GFX Card, 2GB Ram

 

Might want to bump that up to 256MB GFX Card to potentially deal with Windows Vista (hey, you never know) and you might as well get 4GB of RAM these days in new machines.

 

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David Hicks

[CyberNerd]

Our last IT suite cost around £8000 for 30 thin clients and a server

[wesleyw]

If you go down the thin client route with SGD you could do this for around 30k however you could update it and redo lots of labs for very little after this.

 

 

Wes

[featured_spectre]

Anything less than £40'000 is a price that should not be possible to create a decent suite (unless you go thin client).

 

£1000 Fibre back to main cab

 

If that is an accurate price for an entire ICT Lab, I would like to know who you deal with, as it should be in the range of £200 per machine.

 

£2000 for IWB install

 

a good IWB (89inch) would cost you £2000, WITHOUT the install or projector, so adding those costs in your looking at more like £3000.

 

Going cheap on the benches also is never a good idea, as they WILL dip at the weight of the kids leaning on them aswell as the PC's (if they go on there).

 

You have many variables to consider, so consider wisely and get around 10 quotes and do a pick n mix to get the best for you.

[wesleyw]

£500 for an NEC projector £1200 for a Smartboard 77" (89 would be too big in our school) speakers and install £500 so maybe £2200 - £2500 I'd only spend £3000 on the ^80i Smartboard (boom projector and everything else).

 

I was talking about a fibre link between the cabinet in the room and your main cabinet not fibre to each machine.

 

 

Wes

[featured_spectre]

ahhh thats my mistake then, cheerfully disregard the comment then

[wesleyw]

Although an entire room of machines conencted via fibre would be impressive! Especially at 10GB I think you can now get copper 10gb connections can't you? (Wait for Geoff to confirm )

 

 

Wes

[localzuk]

We paid about £50k per room when we redid our 3 the summer of 07. That included completely gutting the rooms, and starting from scratch, new power, new power feeds, new switches, fibre, benching, carpet, painting, network cabling, machines and screens, smartboard, projector etc...

 

(btw. I recommend Sebel chairs, they're superb - difficult to lean back on, 10 year guarentee, no metal bits to damage the carpet).

[michael2k6]

I never had to build an IT suite as it wasn't my job, but i can vouch for the Sebel chairs! Bought a shed load of them and never had a problem.

[dhicks]

It's not just the PC's, but obviously Data & Power (with appropriate infrastructure), Projector, Whiteboard, Amp, Speakers, Air Con, Software Licencing, Printers, etc.

 

As I've mentioned in a couple of other posts, I'm currently trying the ultra-thin-client / desktop-virtualisation NComputing devices. One PCI card (around £300) lets a PC control 6 screens. Assuming you'd go with Windows rather than Linux, you'll have to get Windows Server 2003 for each PC and device CALS, but at education prices that's still only around £300 for a half-dozen workstations. Assume £100 per monitor, maybe £300 for the actual PC, that's around £1,500 per six Windows workstations. For 30 workstations you'd need 5 machines, call it £8000. You would then only need half a dozen or so network points in the room, you'd need around half the number of power points of your normal room, and 5 PCs shouldn't put out that much heat so you can go for very basic air conditioning.

 

Someone like Advanced Connections will very competently install you a projector with speakers and mini (but very good) amplifier for around £1,200. Spend £100 on a top-of-the-range bluetooth wireless keyboard and mouse or splash our around £300 on a Mimio or e-Beam if you really have to have an IWB.

 

You are best off getting a decent large printer/copier on a rental agreement, but you can get refurbished HP 4600DTNs from eBay for £300 each (budget at least £2,000 per year for toner, mind).

 

So, I figure £10,000 for the IT equipment, plus however much you want to spend on desks or benching, chairs, aircon (if any), networking.

 

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David Hicks

[Butuz]

Last few Suite's I've built have come to around 30k per room. But that's with thin clients.

 

The rooms will also pay for themselves over 5 years due to low power usage (compared with fat clients).