Home Fibre Router

[penfold]

I want to install my own router to replace the internet providers one I have. From what I have read I need to put it into PPPoe passthrough and then setup my new router to use PPPoe to connect to the internet.  This seems pretty straight forward, but I noticed on my internet providers router that there are some vlans identified for things like IPTV and we do get our tv through them.  My question is from what I understand if the internet provider is using vlans, I will need a router that is capable of using vlans to ensure I can connect and don't loose my tv.  My question is, I have noticed some routers come with basic tagging for IPTV, but not full VLAN capabilities, but I only want to have the ability to tag the internet and TV traffic so I will be connected. I don't want to fully create VLANS for my own home.  Do I need to look for a device which does full VLAN setup?  How can I tell if the routers I am looking at will be able to provide a breakout for IPTV?

 

I am referring to the WAN interfaces which show Name and VLAN/Priority with some VLAN details. Although I cant set anything, this is greyed out.

Edited August 27, 2025 by penfold

[IRL]

Can't you keep your ISP router but put it in modem mode, then connect your new router to that?

[penfold]

28 minutes ago, IRL said:

Can't you keep your ISP router but put it in modem mode, then connect your new router to that?

This is what I am doing. But the vendor router has VLAN associated with the WAN ports. From what I understand this is so the internet provider can manage the traffic. So if they are tagging the traffic with VLAN data, I will still need a router to be able to manage that?

The only option is PPPoe Passthrough which should allow my new router to connect directly to the internet (as I understand)

Edited August 27, 2025 by penfold

[DalekSec]

UniFi do a nice lineup of consumer Routers now, cloud gateway lineup. (no WiFI inbuilt unless you buy a smaller model that does)

[Davit2005]

As a BT customer I have recently gone down the  process of replacing the supplied FTTP router purely because it was jus so limiting to what it could do. The router I choose was a MikroTik I had lying around (but any decent router should do it depending on how the service is provided) simply pulled the connection to the BT router from the BT ONT. I found some documentation/guides on internet.

 

The BT router had no option for modem the intent being that you can replace the whole router with a 3rd party if you wanted to. Some ISPs don't work/think the same way, lol.

[ZeroHour]

Is this a full fibre FTTP connection or FTTC?

[penfold]

Fibre to the the router and as I understand the current router is acting as the ONT/router. Which means I can't simply swap this out, but need to change the config to PPPoE so I can connect a new router to internet but leave the existing router in place which will convert the signal to fibre?

[robyholmes]

We've just started a switch to VirginMedia, who also don't provide a ONT device. So we've ordered a WAS110 fibre module which acts as a ONT using a SFP+ port. Allowing you to use your own router (UniFi in our case).

 

Mainly gone this route as putting the new VM Hub into modem mode looks to be impossible or very flaky at best.

 

More information on it here. Supports more than VM.

https://fttppro.co.uk/replacing-the-hub-5x-with-a-was-110-sfp-module-on-virgin-medias-xgs-pon-broadband/