Ric_ Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Fake tan crack down at Fylde school - Blackpool Today The newspaper is seriously saying that by banning fake tan we are forcing the kids to use sun beds! Only a Blackpool paper could come to this conclusion For those that have not visited Baines before, you would be forgiven for thinking you had enterred Willy Wonker's Chocolate Factory - Oompa Lumpas everywhere!
localzuk Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Fake tan should be banned full stop! People should not be orange!!
PEO Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 At least there using the common sense and not going on those stupid tanning machines, thus causing the tax payer £100k's to treat skin cancer. I agree to much and it looks hideous, but I think the school may be going way other the top.
Dos_Box Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 "It might force kids to go on sunbeds and, at the end of the day, if you look nice it helps you to be more bubbly and confident." I find that a good breakfast helps.
PEO Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 I find that a good breakfast helps. are you a crunchy nut?
torledo Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 So it's preferable girls (and boys for that matter) to paint themselves orange than to be out in the sun....on the rare occasions we actually get meaningful sunshine. I know which is the PC gone mad story here, and it's not the perfectly sensible comments by the school head. This whole Elf and Safety culture means that kids don't go out in the sun and partake in sporting and recreational activities because of the sun cancer scare brigade....not dissimilar to the road safety scare protagonists who find it preferable that the law creates this current peer stigma of wearing a ludicrous looking plastic helmet meaning that young people choose not to cycle, and therefore don't cycle and don't get enough exercise and choose to channel their energies into other, less savoury activities. We rode bikes in the 80's and the practice of riding pillion without helmets was a common site....but we never got seriously hurt. Similarly we would play football for hours when the sun was out....and we never got sunstroke. The diffrence then was that we didn't need a big brother style govt. telling us what was plainly obvious to us....set up camp in some shade where possible when your in the park and the sun is out, and the only way to be safe cycling is to get some practice in. Wearing a helmet doesn't make you a better cyclist, and sporting a fake tin doesn't bestow one with common sense.
reggiep Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 ....not dissimilar to the road safety scare protagonists who find it preferable that the law creates this current peer stigma of wearing a ludicrous looking plastic helmet meaning that young people choose not to cycle, and therefore don't cycle and don't get enough exercise and choose to channel their energies into other, less savoury activities. We rode bikes in the 80's and the practice of riding pillion without helmets was a common site....but we never got seriously hurt. Similarly we would play football for hours when the sun was out....and we never got sunstroke. Whoa there hoss!! You don't have to wear a helmet to ride a bike it's a personal choice. I would never go out on my bike without a helmet and there are plenty of helmets now that don't make you look like a closet train spotter.
dhicks Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 ...but we never got seriously hurt. Having seen the nasty mess that my cycle helmet ended up in after I somersaulted over the handlebars going down a hill once, I can cheerfully assert that I'm glad it wasn't my head that looked like that. Does make you think, though - what a better place the world could be if we got all the hot-shot advertising executives who spend their time convincing us that once brand of chocolate bar beats another one and instead put them to work convincing people to ride bikes everywhere, etc. The other option, of course, is to include breakfall lessons as part of the KS1 curriculum... -- David Hicks
Guest Guest Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Having seen the nasty mess that my cycle helmet ended up in after I somersaulted over the handlebars going down a hill once, I can cheerfully assert that I'm glad it wasn't my head that looked like that. Thats fair enough, it does happen. But my mate fell down the biggest nastiest hill you could imagine. His bike was in peices, his collar bone broken and skin missing from all his arms and legs. He got up, picked his bike up and walked the 4miles home more worried about what his mum was going to say about his brand new bike. Id love to see a kid do that today! Kids are supposed to get hurt, thats the point in growing up; to learn your own lessons. Edited July 22, 2008 by Guest
KarlGoddard Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 This topic has just reminded me that bar far the weirdest call we had was when a pupil came up to our office saying that a teacher had sent them to us so she could remove her eye make up.... god knows what staff must think we get up to as to suggest the girl came to see IT to remove make up
john Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 This topic has just reminded me that bar far the weirdest call we had was when a pupil came up to our office saying that a teacher had sent them to us so she could remove her eye make up.... god knows what staff must think we get up to as to suggest the girl came to see IT to remove make up You must have some WD40 somewhere in the department or paint thinners or grafeete remover, all 3 of those products will remove makeup perfectly (May also remove skin if used incorrectly )
webman Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Reminds me of this story about a girl and her mother who blames a tanning salon for her getting burnt. Simply because they "allowed" her to go on for longer than she should have done. The Darlington teenager went to the salon with a schoolfriend and lay on the bed for 12 minutes. She returned later that afternoon thinking the session had not worked and was allowed back on for another nine minutes. By the end of the day she needed to be treated with antihistamines and painkillers at Darlington Memorial Hospital's accident and emergency unit. Ms Turner, 34, of Hutton Road, Darlington, said: "Katie has asked me before if she could go on a sunbed, but I have always said no. She's far too young and she has lilywhite skin. "But kids being kids, she went after school with her friends. The people at the salon didn't ask her age or talk her through what she was meant to do. "After the first 12 minutes she thought that it hadn't worked so she went back and asked for another nine minutes. She didn't wear any goggles so she was staring into the bulbs with her eyes open the whole time." I agree with the point made about kids being kids and should learn for themselves. But my reason for quoting the above, is that I think people are all to quick and eager to point the finger at and blame anyone other than themselves for anything bad happens.
contink Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Just responding to the kids cycling thing... Have you been on a bike in the places you used to as a child? I did and never EVER again!.. Drivers are 500% worse than they were when I was a kid cycling to school. More of them, more stupid, less patient and completely unrepentant when they run you off the road or pull out in front of you forcing you to scratch the cr*p out of their door/bonnet as you go over it!
torledo Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Just responding to the kids cycling thing... Have you been on a bike in the places you used to as a child? I did and never EVER again!.. Drivers are 500% worse than they were when I was a kid cycling to school. More of them, more stupid, less patient and completely unrepentant when they run you off the road or pull out in front of you forcing you to scratch the cr*p out of their door/bonnet as you go over it! yes the roads and traffic situation is different, but many other aspects of life are little changed than they were 20 or 30 years ago. The sun hasn't gotten any hotter in the last 20 years - well atleast not noticably so in this country - also other than the traffic situaiton i can't think what else has changed to create this seismic shift in attitudes where children are kept indoors due to disproportiante fears of parents. Other than american-inspired blame culture which forces schools to do risk assessments for taking kids to the shops and stuff like that. I'm not saying kids should start knocking footballs about on the street like we used to, and i myself was never a big bike rider so i don't advocate dancing with the traffic on a mountain bike.....but there are plenty of things kids can do outdoors in safety that isn't going to do them irreprable damage. A few bumps and scratches and coming home exhausted from a 2 hour game of football is preferable to hanging around outside off-licences which doesn't seem to concern parents as much. And i don't see the roads are sufficiently dangerous to pedestrations to justify this trend taking children everywhere by car.
SteveLaw Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 The sun hasn't gotten any hotter in the last 20 years - well atleast not noticably so in this country The problem with the sun/skin cancer/sunburn isn't that the sun is hotter, but that there is less ozone layer and therefore more ultraviolet radiation.
john Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 You've made the front page of the BBC News > England Page! Wow Well done http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7520225.stm
Ric_ Posted July 23, 2008 Author Posted July 23, 2008 You've made the front page of the BBC News > England Page! Wow Well done BBC NEWS | England | Lancashire | School warning to 'orange' pupils That's a nice picture... well done whoever took that Just had an Irish talk radio guy on the phone too... lol I think you'll also find that we've made it into EVERY new publication in the UK... give it a Google and see who can come up with the most obscure!
Dos_Box Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 You're on the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 this lunchtime as well
john Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 hah all this over some shoe polish! What ever next, all you have to do is turn into a private school and turn it round into a marketing exercise hehe
richard.thomas Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Been all over the north-west news aswell! Visiting the parents and noticed on North-West tonight they were talking about this school!
tomscaper Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 I don't understand the whole wanting to looked tanned craze, we live in England, which is a cold rainy country, we don't get that much sun. So why can't people just be happy with pale skin.
dhicks Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 I don't understand the whole wanting to looked tanned craze, we live in England, which is a cold rainy country, we don't get that much sun. Exactly - natural state is pale, so being tanned marks you out as able to afford pricey foreign holidays (or less pricy tanning booths, or, in this case, dodgy fake-tan). The weird thing is that a century ago, or less, the exact opposite was true - manual labourers worked in the fields and got tanned, so being pale marked you out as being more upper-class. -- David Hicks
Ric_ Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 And does it really matter when the kids plaster themselves in make up anyway? Well that's the point... The Oompa Lumpas aren't going to be allowed to wear excessive amounts of makeup either. What the media has decided is that we are banning fake tan but what the two page letter actually said was that excessive use of fake tan and makeup isn't allowed (along with short skirts, excessively long hair, false nails, certain types of shoe, etc.). I had a group of kids on detention copying out the Computer Misuse Act (cheers for that one ChrisH) and one of the girls lent on a lads shoulder as she whinged about the hardship I had inflicted... half her face came off on his blazer! This is the sort of excess we are talking about... makeup trowls anyone?
Ric_ Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 And now with international interest apparantly http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Worldwide-interest-in-school39s-fake.4318927.jp
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