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6Foot2

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Link: Gaps in what we know about ancient Romans could be filled by AI - BBC News

 

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A new AI tool has the potential to turbocharge our understanding of all human history, researchers say.

 

Artificial intelligence has already been used to fill in gaps in ancient Roman scrolls, but a new system goes much further.

 

It can fill in missing words from ancient Roman inscriptions carved on monuments and everyday objects, as well as dating and placing them geographically.

 

AI often introduces errors in its analysis of even simple modern texts, so there are concerns that relying too much on this technology might distort rather than enhance our understanding of history.

 

But historian Prof Dame Mary Beard of Cambridge University has described the technology as potentially "transformative" to our study of past events.

 

She said that the system, called Aeneas, after a Greek and Roman mythological figure, could accelerate the rate at which historians piece together the past from ancient texts.

 

"Breakthroughs in this very difficult field have tended to rely on the memory, the subjective judgement and the hunch/guesswork of individual scholars, supported by traditional, encyclopaedic databases. Aeneas opens up entirely new horizons."...

 

mavhc

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16 hours ago, 6Foot2 said:

Link: Gaps in what we know about ancient Romans could be filled by AI - BBC News

 

 

Seems like a good plan, humans just guess what the missing/partially destroyed words are, AI can be trained on every piece of text and be better at guessing, then humans can focus on the context of the words and see if the guesses are correct. It can easily be written to show a list of probable words for the humans to pick from

sigma

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Something about Trump signing an Executive Order affecting US AI providers that might want to sell their product to, or receive funding from, the US government that could cause bias.

 

Can’t really say more or link because politics, but there’s plenty of comment on the interwebs. 

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In a similar vein to Duck.ai, Proton have now launched Lumo, their privacy-focussed AI chatbot. Where Duck.ai is just a proxy to OpenAI, Claude, etc, Lumo appears to be being run on Proton's own servers, using open-source models.

 

I'm not much of a judge of AI tools, but I like an AI product has finally assumed cat form.

Ditto

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But let's not just ban AI - let's teach the students how to use AI properly and discipline themselves as to how and when to use AI tools.

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ITGuyNW

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The problem is the dozen or so who continually flout the rules and just dump their questions into Google and getting the answer back straight away. What are you going to do? Try to teach them the correct ways and end up punishing them with detentions until they're completely dejected with school life and end up being suspended/expelled? There are always going to be those students who cannot keep away from the temptation so we need to manage their behaviour.

 

Is it not unreasonable that technology can be modular and can be allowed/blocked where we see appropriate?

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I agree with both of you.  
 

Teaching pupils how to use AI responsibly presumes that we have teachers capable of teaching it. 

 

For every online platform, Sparxmaths, or ad laden language learning game of your choice,  there are pupils that sit there with one tab on the topic, and another on Google already, and teachers don’t seem bothered about it.  To a large extent, we already seem to be using ‘technical measures’ to assist what is really a classroom management issue by blocking games and other time wasting activities that could be considered ‘overblocking’.

 

While behaviour can be managed at school, homework never looked so easy.  Will it go back to being handwritten maybe?


 

 

ITGuyNW

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They're already slowly ditching sparx/seneca here for lessons and going back to mini whiteboards and pens. The head was shocked when I showed them footage of students just dumping questions into google and the head of department realising why his brilliant 100% amazingly talented class couldn't answer simple questions when asked.

 

I think they're still going to use it for home, but that's outside schools control and down to parents.

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paulkerton

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4 minutes ago, ITGuyNW said:

I think they're still going to use it for home, but that's outside schools control and down to parents.


If it's down to parents, then expect the Government to put in unenforceable legislation to counter that. 😁

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sigma

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3 minutes ago, ITGuyNW said:

They're already slowly ditching sparx/seneca here for lessons and going back to mini whiteboards and pens. The head was shocked when I showed them footage of students just dumping questions into google and the head of department realising why his brilliant 100% amazingly talented class couldn't answer simple questions when asked.

 

I keep expecting that to happen, but think it will be a while here yet.

 

Without being intentionally political, we have yet to see the effect of Trump’s AI Action Plan of last week, which produced executive orders on artificial intelligence: “Accelerating Federal Permitting of Data Center Infrastructure,” “Promoting the Export of the American AI Technology Stack,” and “Preventing Woke AI In the Federal Government.” Basically telling the AI companies themselves is to make sure their large language models promote a Trump-friendly view of the world.  Will the key players produce two versions a USA and a rest of the world version of their LLM’s?

Rob_D

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This brings to mind a time (back in the mid 2000s), I was in final year of university, and chatting with one of the lecturers while she was on the way to, in her words "explain to the first-years why you can't put wikipedia in your bibliography".

In a few years I can imagine that becoming, why you can't cite google AI.

 

Maybe the counter should be more focus on how to research, and the value of primary sources earlier in schooling. Explain early on that yes AI is alright for quick answers to quick questions, but for research or anything more detailed it's about as reliable as your drunk uncle.

 

Incidentally google's still saying sharks are older than then moon (although it seems a bit confused about it now).

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dmj

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8 minutes ago, Rob_D said:

Maybe the counter should be more focus on how to research, and the value of primary sources earlier in schooling. Explain early on that yes AI is alright for quick answers to quick questions, but for research or anything more detailed it's about as reliable as your drunk uncle.

 

I find it the opposite, in that it's quite good at summarising research. If I ask Gemini (deep research) a question it will go off to 20-30 websites, 'read' them and give me an answer. My questions are usually tech related and it always provides references (albeit websites). I'm sure it would do the same with scientific literature if you asked it.  

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If they can finish their school work in 10 seconds by copying and pasting maybe their assignment isn't suitable for the world of 2025, let alone when they actually finish school in 5 years time.

 

There are maths exams that allow calculators, CS exams that allow IDEs, Literature exams that allow books with notes in, embrace the world beyond memorization

 

Teach critical thinking and the ability to research, don't blindly trust books, textbooks, your teachers, websites, Wikipedia or AI with the knowledge to cross reference, find multiple sources, argue from first principles etc.

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Rob_D

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16 hours ago, mavhc said:

If they can finish their school work in 10 seconds by copying and pasting maybe their assignment isn't suitable for the world of 2025, let alone when they actually finish school in 5 years time.

Because we weren't doing the same with Encarta back in the 1990s...

 

 

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26 minutes ago, sigma said:

 

Was this AI generated?

 

Telephone operators?  Even I don't remember having to have a call connected by an operator in the last 30 years or so....

Along with Passenger Attendants who usually walk up and down the isles/cabins dealing with requests. How is an AI going to fetch my order on a plane and serve me a proper cup of tea. While also sorting out the argument between who sits in 4B.

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6Foot2

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16 minutes ago, Pottsey said:

Along with Passenger Attendants who usually walk up and down the isles/cabins dealing with requests. How is an AI going to fetch my order on a plane and serve me a proper cup of tea. While also sorting out the argument between who sits in 4B.

 

Link: Working with AI: Measuring the Occupational Implications of Generative AI [41-page PDF]

 

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... These IWAs flow into occupations such as Passenger Attendants, Sales Representatives, Customer Service Representatives, Broadcast Announcers, Concierges, Hosts and Hostesses, etc. While it may have been surprising at first glance to see these occupations with high AI applicability scores in Table 3, this is explained by AI’s ability to communicate information, which is a substantial component of these occupations...

 

6Foot2

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Link: Amazon Invests in Fable: 'Netflix of AI' Generates Playable TV Shows

 

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Edward Saatchi isn’t totally sure people will flock to Showrunner, the new AI-generated TV show service his company is launching publicly this week. But he has a vote of confidence from Amazon, which has invested in Fable, Saatchi’s San Francisco-based start-up.

 

The amount of Amazon’s funding in Fable isn’t being disclosed. The money is going toward building out Showrunner, which Fable has hyped as the “Netflix of AI”: a service that lets you type in a few words to create scenes — or entire episodes — of a TV show, either from scratch or based on an existing story-world someone else has created.

 

Fable is launching Showrunner to let users tinker with the animation-focused generative-AI system, following several months in a closed alpha test with 10,000 users. Initially, Showrunner will be free to use but eventually the company plans to charge creators $10-$20 per month for credits allowing them to create hundreds of TV scenes, Saatchi said. Viewing Showrunner-generated content will be free, and anyone can share the AI video on YouTube or other third-party platforms...

 

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