KCSIE 2023 - updates that may impact IT

[Face-Man]

There is an "online safety audit" document from LGFL available here https://app.hubspot.com/documents/7017625/view/317431985?accessId=beddd3 School can use this to assess there current compliance with KCSIE

 

they also have some useful videos that you can point concerned staff towards to explain the implication of KCSIE 2023 https://national.lgfl.net/digisafe/kcsie

 

this page also has a video as to what is expected by "filtering checks" that need to be carried out.

 

Finally there is 30 minutes training for SLT and DSL - https://www.lgfl.net/training/default.aspx?c=dac7c0c1-07ef-46f9-98a7-f6d6a8c3d62b

[Jobos]

Lots of good points in this thread and will keep the network managers busy but what about schools who only have a technician like primaries, who will read, digest and implement the required changes? I'm a technician so fall into the latter category and I bet more will be asked of me.

[LeMarchand]

Lots of good points in this thread and will keep the network managers busy but what about schools who only have a technician like primaries, who will read, digest and implement the required changes? I'm a technician so fall into the latter category and I bet more will be asked of me.

 

I'm in a similar situation but with 3 sites. Mainly because I know that my heads likely won't and that if something goes wrong I know who will be the scapegoat, I'm doing what I can and plan on sending out an as-concise-as-I-can-make-it spreadsheet with the requirements, colour-coded (Green=Done, Amber=Needs to be done with timeline, Red=Needs to be done now) and with guesstimates for costings and/or what can be done in-house (like training). That way I have something I can produce to prove that I have given as much info as possible because I know very little is likely to change, mainly due to costs, but also due to apathy and not wanting to upset the poor widdle staff who are used to their routines. (Seriously, there are some practices that I have pointed out are very bad, but that are shrugged off).

[GrumbleDook]

I've got that, but 123 and the next few don't seem relevant.

 

 

There is a long-running conversation about how records are kept and/or shared between schools during and after any transition. The most common one we have all been involved in at some point is the Year 6 into Year 7 transition.

Data Sharing between schools is both a reasonable and manageable concept, and there can be essential information that needs passing on that may not always be in the Pupil Record file.

 

In the same way that KCSiE has had to explicitly mention that Data Protection concerns should not stop you from sharing vital information when it is needed, it does also state you should follow the 7 principles of data protection. Likewise, making sure that personnel in the new school have the right info from the previous school can also be vital. This can be an informal agreement, or it could be through tools such as https://sixintoseven.co.uk/.

 

As adoptive parents, there is so much we knew had to be shared between schools and having a paragraph or two in KCSiE means that parents also have something to point to when making sure information is passed on.

[mdrabble]

I'm not firing on all cylinders at the moment and with the nice bonus of a massive headache, I thought why not take a bit of time and read through a check list from Safeguarding news and support from Andrew Hall https://www.safeguardinginschools.co.uk/blog/filteringandmonitoring

 

Reading the checklist I came across this and though.... Eh - Has a technical monitoring system been applied to devices using mobile or app content?

 

Can someone explain what this please.

 

Am I overthinking this? Is this just a fancy term for someone looking at logs etc and checking that certain mobole apps are being blocked.

[localzuk]

@MRDabble I'd read that as asking if your monitoring system can monitor the content that apps are using - eg not just dedicated web browsers. So, if someone uses the Youtube app, is it monitored etc...

[mavhc]

What systems allow that to work?

[Face-Man]

There are some more LGFL videos for SLT and Governors around KCSIE , safeguarding and web filtering review v checks https://national.lgfl.net/digisafe/kcsie/webfiltering

[pooley]

Am I correct in assuming this is for England based schools only?

[Face-Man]

Am I correct in assuming this is for England based schools only?

 

Yes this guidance only applies to school in England...

[sigma]

There are some more LGFL videos for SLT and Governors around KCSIE , safeguarding and web filtering review v checks https://national.lgfl.net/digisafe/kcsie/webfiltering

 

I am in a genuine quandary about over-blocking.

 

We have been fairly strict about categories that are blocked. I appreciate that for some things such as "games", we are using "technical measures" to compensate for .. um.. lack of classroom management when pupils would otherwise be off topic. This could be interpreted as "over-blocking". However, there seems to be a tension in that the guidance doesn't seem to recognise that filtering and monitoring takes place for reasons other than safeguarding, such as protecting the integrity of our data and systems, ad-blocking and privacy (tracking protection), conformance with website Ts&Cs (age) and GDPR (age of consent) too. I can't see that it would ever be just a filtered (safeguarded) version of their home internet experience.

[DavR]

I am in a genuine quandary about over-blocking.

 

We have been fairly strict about categories that are blocked. I appreciate that for some things such as "games", we are using "technical measures" to compensate for .. um.. lack of classroom management when pupils would otherwise be off topic. This could be interpreted as "over-blocking". However, there seems to be a tension in that the guidance doesn't seem to recognise that filtering and monitoring takes place for reasons other than safeguarding, such as protecting the integrity of our data and systems, ad-blocking and privacy (tracking protection), conformance with website Ts&Cs (age) and GDPR (age of consent) too. I can't see that it would ever be just a filtered (safeguarded) version of their home internet experience.

 

I think you'd be in the clear with blocking stuff like Games categories, this is as you say, a behaviour management decision. In terms of overblocking, it doesn't impede children or adults' ability to reach genuine educational content.

 

Have you had a look at the

, in the link above? They give the example of the Sex Ed curriculum, where children may start googling anatomical terms. You want that child to be able to access information on those terms, but, you want to block potentially explicit results. Overblocking in this case would be to block ALL content relating to anatomical terms, impeding the child's ability to access information relevant to the curriculum.

 

Another one perhaps would be WW2 history. You want children to access informational content on WW2, it's causes and after effects, but, you don't want them to access harmful and current far right material. Overblocking would be to block all and every mention of fascism. How far you go varies on the age range, of course.

[MartinT]

Depends how you implement it. We have a backup FTTC line here, for example. But, the idea of a backup line only really works if it is routed differently in my view.

 

Agreed. Although we have a backup FTTC line, it follows the same route as the main leased line. So we now have a 2nd backup 5G installation.

[sigma]

I think you'd be in the clear with blocking stuff like Games categories, this is as you say, a behaviour management decision. In terms of overblocking, it doesn't impede children or adults' ability to reach genuine educational content.

 

Have you had a look at the

, in the link above? They give the example of the Sex Ed curriculum, where children may start googling anatomical terms. You want that child to be able to access information on those terms, but, you want to block potentially explicit results. Overblocking in this case would be to block ALL content relating to anatomical terms, impeding the child's ability to access information relevant to the curriculum.

 

Another one perhaps would be WW2 history. You want children to access informational content on WW2, it's causes and after effects, but, you don't want them to access harmful and current far right material. Overblocking would be to block all and every mention of fascism. How far you go varies on the age range, of course.

 

I agree 100%.

 

I've watched that video several times. It's what's got me to question our approach.

 

I clearly have a lot of work (correctly) to do, to override our ISP's keyword list!