Well done manchester united

[torledo]

I am over the moon! Man Utd should of won it in the first half - had so many good chances, fair play to Chelsea they stuck at it. But the better team won in the end!

 

better team won ?!!?!!

 

were we even watching the same game....united totally lost the midfield from the moment lampard scored the equalizer, so that's all of the second half and all but 5 minutes of extra time where chelsea were the BETTER team not man utd...

 

yes, united should have scored with the tevez chances, but chelsea hit the woodwork twice and overall were the more lkely to win in regulation time....

 

That's now the second time in ten years united have won the european cup despite being the lesser team on the night. Both bayern and chelsea had only themselves to blame for not killing off man u. They were there for the taking.

[torledo]

Not one to nitpick, but Chelsea tried the same. e.g. £30 million signing Shevchenko didn't even get a game. I think we can agree that you need to spend a bit of money to compete at that level?

 

the shevchenko purchase had nothing to do with the business of winning football games, it was a vanity exercise by the owner pure and simple. He liked the idea of having the player shevchenko once was playing for his club....if he'd have stopped to ask any football person they would have told him he hadn't been that player for years and wasn't worth anywhere near that....even at his peak he would have been a toss up whether he would have been successful in the faster paced premier league.

 

Chelsea do overspend and they have made some shocking buys (Veron and crespo for instance) at inflated prices...but both Veron and crespo as additions to the team made some sense in that they needed some quality in midfield and some power up front.....but the shevcenko purchase made absolutely no sense on any level. 30 million for a player in his 30's who had lost a yard of pace, whose best years were behind him, and who had played in the more sedate italian league for several years.

 

crespo could have been a success, veron could have turned things around and he was still a regular for one of the strongest international teams at that time....but sheva was never going to do anything at chelsea. He was a free transfer player at most, pay him 130,000 grand a week and hope he knocks in the odd important goal...but 30 million. unbelievable.

[philtomo-25]

better team won ?!!?!!

 

were we even watching the same game....united totally lost the midfield from the moment lampard scored the equalizer, so that's all of the second half and all but 5 minutes of extra time where chelsea were the BETTER team not man utd...

 

yes, united should have scored with the tevez chances, but chelsea hit the woodwork twice and overall were the more lkely to win in regulation time....

 

That's now the second time in ten years united have won the european cup despite being the lesser team on the night. Both bayern and chelsea had only themselves to blame for not killing off man u. They were there for the taking.

 

sounds like sour grapes to me mate, anti united by anychance?

 

we were better 1st half

they had the second

looked to me like we were the better team in extra time

we won the penalties

 

when looking back on previous winners it doesnt say owt about like "2008 - manchester united (but outplayed by chelsea))

 

end of story

[Elky]

I agree with the Shevchenko post

 

Just to put it in to perspective, at the same time they paid £30m for him, we got Kanu for nothing. Kanu has more goals than Shevchenko and they are both the same age now (although its debatable about Kanu being 31 now! 40 more like!)

 

We got much better value for our money methinks!

[CHR1S]

I support neither team and watched from a non biased pov but Man U didnt deserve to win. Chelsea were the better team over 120 mins in my opinion and only lost on penalties due to Terry slipping as he struck the ball. If it was a PL game a 1 - 1 draw would have been a fair result.

 

At the end of the day a British team won and it was a thrilling game so why argue?

[torledo]

sounds like sour grapes to me mate, anti united by anychance?

 

when looking back on previous winners it doesnt say owt about like "2008 - manchester united (but outplayed by chelsea))

 

 

ha!!!! so you admit it, utd were outplayed by chelsea....

 

yes i do hate man u (not as much as the prawn sarnie brigade that follow them)....although i will admit they have a fantastic defence, a great holding midfielder in hargreaves and a very talented potential match winner in ronaldo. They're a good team but they are seriously lightweight when it comes to the creative midfield area, that's where chelsea started to boss things with only hargreaves putting up any resistance.

 

in '99, without scholes united looked ordinary. in '08 even with scholes united looked ordinary relying too heavily on ronaldo to conjure something for nothing.

 

United may have won, but chelsea have the moral victory and as a neutral they deserved to win. Especially when you look at how anonymous united were in the second half. And that's total balls about united being better in extra time, they did sweet FA in extra time. Chelsea were better up until drogba was sent off. As in '99 relying on luck becuase they weren't good enough over the 90 minutes.

[Ryan]

Moral victory? Does that come with a moral trophy and matching moral winners' medals?

 

Chelsea didn't deserve it, they were pretty evenly matched, which is why it took penalties to decide it. If anything swayed it, it was Chelsea's appalling behaviour. Grant really needs to put a leash on his players. Every time the ref blew for something he was surrounded but arm-waving, finger-pointing blues. If i was in that position and any of those mouthy tw*ts were screaming in my face, i'd have most of them cautioned. Utter lack of respect.

 

 

And for what it's worth, i don't support, or for that matter hate, any team.

[torledo]

Moral victory? Does that come with a moral trophy and matching moral winners' medals?

 

Chelsea didn't deserve it, they were pretty evenly matched, which is why it took penalties to decide it. If anything swayed it, it was Chelsea's appalling behaviour. Grant really needs to put a leash on his players. Every time the ref blew for something he was surrounded but arm-waving, finger-pointing blues. If i was in that position and any of those mouthy tw*ts were screaming in my face, i'd have most of them cautioned. Utter lack of respect.

 

 

And for what it's worth, i don't support, or for that matter hate, any team.

 

the ref deserved to be surrounded by irate players....it was a pretty poor performance, some of the decisions were bemusing for both sides.

 

The chelsea players were right to go mad about the scholes challenge on makalele....it was a red card on any lesser occasion - jumps straight into him at god knows what speed and flays his elbow in the direction of makalele's head for good measure. It's only becuase scholes is gazza-like wimp that it was HE who ended up with a bloodied nose and not makalele. On several occasions the ref stopped the game for 50/50's and innocuous challenges. And he was never in control of the match allowing fracas to ensue....you can't blame the players if the ref can't exert control.

 

obviously drogba was carrying on like a d*ck...and chelsea have no-one to blame but themselves for his sending off. The first prattish thing terry did was to confront teves about him kicking the ball out of touch rather than pass it to the chelsea keeper....kalou did exactly the same thing minutes eariler. Terry had absolutely nothing to whine about.

 

What i would like a to see is this perverted sportsmanship of kicking a ball out of play or returning it to an opposition team, to be scrapped....unless it's a head injury or other serious looking injury, the game should be allowed to carry on until the ball goes out of play. That may be hard to administer, but the very least they can do is not stop the game for cramp. Both teams were stopped in attacking positions 'cos a player had cramp...pathetic. Ferdinand had cramp in his own penalty area and the game was stopped. Cramp is part and parcel of the game in later stages...it shouldn't be allowed to stop a game - whether it's a defender, striker or even a goalie.

[philtomo-25]

ha!!!! so you admit it, utd were outplayed by chelsea....

 

yes i do hate man u (not as much as the prawn sarnie brigade that follow them)....although i will admit they have a fantastic defence, a great holding midfielder in hargreaves and a very talented potential match winner in ronaldo. They're a good team but they are seriously lightweight when it comes to the creative midfield area, that's where chelsea started to boss things with only hargreaves putting up any resistance.

 

in '99, without scholes united looked ordinary. in '08 even with scholes united looked ordinary relying too heavily on ronaldo to conjure something for nothing.

 

United may have won, but chelsea have the moral victory and as a neutral they deserved to win. Especially when you look at how anonymous united were in the second half. And that's total balls about united being better in extra time, they did sweet FA in extra time. Chelsea were better up until drogba was sent off. As in '99 relying on luck becuase they weren't good enough over the 90 minutes.

 

what channel was this game on that you were watching? because it wasnt the same game that i saw?

anyone who saw that game would say that united were the better team in the 1st half and chelsea were better in the 2nd

no one played better than the other, it was a fair and tactical game in extra time which i think united edged

i think your just to narrow minded and anti united to realise that, but as previously mentioned, even if YOU think chelsea played better than united, it dont matter because no one remembers the losers

[Inbir316]

yawn........

 

its ok i know you've got poor footie knowledge

[Inbir316]

sounds like sour grapes to me mate, anti united by anychance?

 

we were better 1st half

they had the second

looked to me like we were the better team in extra time

we won the penalties

 

when looking back on previous winners it doesnt say owt about like "2008 - manchester united (but outplayed by chelsea))

 

end of story

 

2005 - liverpool - 3 nil down pulled back to draw and win on pens...more entertainment there

[Inbir316]

the ref deserved to be surrounded by irate players....it was a pretty poor performance, some of the decisions were bemusing for both sides.

 

The chelsea players were right to go mad about the scholes challenge on makalele....it was a red card on any lesser occasion - jumps straight into him at god knows what speed and flays his elbow in the direction of makalele's head for good measure. It's only becuase scholes is gazza-like wimp that it was HE who ended up with a bloodied nose and not makalele. On several occasions the ref stopped the game for 50/50's and innocuous challenges. And he was never in control of the match allowing fracas to ensue....you can't blame the players if the ref can't exert control.

 

obviously drogba was carrying on like a d*ck...and chelsea have no-one to blame but themselves for his sending off. The first prattish thing terry did was to confront teves about him kicking the ball out of touch rather than pass it to the chelsea keeper....kalou did exactly the same thing minutes eariler. Terry had absolutely nothing to whine about.

 

What i would like a to see is this perverted sportsmanship of kicking a ball out of play or returning it to an opposition team, to be scrapped....unless it's a head injury or other serious looking injury, the game should be allowed to carry on until the ball goes out of play. That may be hard to administer, but the very least they can do is not stop the game for cramp. Both teams were stopped in attacking positions 'cos a player had cramp...pathetic. Ferdinand had cramp in his own penalty area and the game was stopped. Cramp is part and parcel of the game in later stages...it shouldn't be allowed to stop a game - whether it's a defender, striker or even a goalie.

 

yes the ref did have a poor...very poor game..but thats because he sticks to uefa's continental rules, these differ from the premiership. had the ref been english maybe it would have been different. champions league has always been like this as most of europe is about pulling up on 50/50 challenges. watch the euros to see my point..or the spanish league lol!

[mortstar]

torledo, you're a typical scouse whinger full of vitreous and vile hot air.

 

Champions of England and Champions of Europe and deservedly so...

 

...nevermind, I'm sure it'll be Liverpool's season next year, they've turned a corner don't you know.

[WelshTechie]

it dont matter does it...we won it three times.....without killing anyone

stick ur 5 times and multiple murders up ya backside:cool:

 

What a tit. To be fair, i wouldn't expect any different from mancs. Disgraceful.

[Disease]

ha!!!! so you admit it, utd were outplayed by chelsea....

 

yes i do hate man u (not as much as the prawn sarnie brigade that follow them)....although i will admit they have a fantastic defence, a great holding midfielder in hargreaves and a very talented potential match winner in ronaldo. They're a good team but they are seriously lightweight when it comes to the creative midfield area, that's where chelsea started to boss things with only hargreaves putting up any resistance.

 

in '99, without scholes united looked ordinary. in '08 even with scholes united looked ordinary relying too heavily on ronaldo to conjure something for nothing.

 

United may have won, but chelsea have the moral victory and as a neutral they deserved to win. Especially when you look at how anonymous united were in the second half. And that's total balls about united being better in extra time, they did sweet FA in extra time. Chelsea were better up until drogba was sent off. As in '99 relying on luck becuase they weren't good enough over the 90 minutes.

 

 

The stats do not support that Utd were outplayed by Chelsea, Manchester United had More Possession, more teritorial advantage, Chelsea only managed to muster 1 shot on target in the entire 120 mins. So that plain facts are Manchester United were the better team.

[Jake_89]

Got back from Moscow Yesterday, Great Atmosphere, No Trouble and a brilliant game to watch.

 

Could be a biased view but United were the deserving team. The Champion's League isn't just about the final in my opinion. United have been by far the better team throughout the whole competition!

 

United were eaisly the best in the first half and had most of the possession with more shots and more shots on target. Second half Chelsea dominated with more chances, although scoreboard in the ground had it down as more United possesion. In extra time, I think United were the better team, more clear cut chances (Tevez, Giggs, Carrick etc), although almost had a heart attack when Lampard hit the bar!!!. Penalties is not just luck as some people say, it's a skill. Edwin should have saved Cole's easily, and Man U's penaltys were by far the better taken ones. Anderson's in particular was brill, 19 Years old, barely 5mins on the pitch and has the onions to put it down the middle against Cech. Giggs' was calm and collective, couldn't expect anything less from someone with his experience. So glad Terry missed before that, never had such a bigh relief in my life! Everyone in the ground could see Anelka has his head down walking to the penalty spot, Electric Atomosphere in the Stands!!! Everyone went crazy when Edwin saved it! What a legend!

 

Trophy parade was quality, was about 5 meters away from them!

 

Was a fantastic experience. Bring on 2008/09!

[Guest Guest]

Moral victory? Does that come with a moral trophy and matching moral winners' medals?

 

lmao

 

When anyone looks back in the history books they will see; Chelsea 2007/08 Trophies = 0

 

I actually feel sorry for the manager as he has done really well but i couldnt ever be happy for them had they won with Drogba in the team. Totally deserved his red card, one of the highlights of the season for me.

[flashsnaps]

2005 - liverpool - 3 nil down pulled back to draw and win on pens...more entertainment there

 

Yawn.......that's history get over it.........

[cookie_monster]

The stats do not support that Utd were outplayed by Chelsea, Manchester United had More Possession, more teritorial advantage, Chelsea only managed to muster 1 shot on target in the entire 120 mins

 

Exactly, at the end of the game Mau U had 67% possession which indicates that it was their mid field doing the 'bossing' around. I seem to remember Man U having the better scoring chances as well especially when i watched the game again last night.

Overall an entertaining final especially as a neutral i've seen much worse i wasn't high scoring but a couple of goals is good and the woodwork was rattled a few times as well.

 

 

Drogba in the team. Totally deserved his red card, one of the highlights of the season for me.

 

Yep that was ace :-)

Edited May 23, 2008 by cookie_monster

[philtomo-25]

Got back from Moscow Yesterday, Great Atmosphere, No Trouble and a brilliant game to watch.

 

Could be a biased view but United were the deserving team. The Champion's League isn't just about the final in my opinion. United have been by far the better team throughout the whole competition!

 

United were eaisly the best in the first half and had most of the possession with more shots and more shots on target. Second half Chelsea dominated with more chances, although scoreboard in the ground had it down as more United possesion. In extra time, I think United were the better team, more clear cut chances (Tevez, Giggs, Carrick etc), although almost had a heart attack when Lampard hit the bar!!!. Penalties is not just luck as some people say, it's a skill. Edwin should have saved Cole's easily, and Man U's penaltys were by far the better taken ones. Anderson's in particular was brill, 19 Years old, barely 5mins on the pitch and has the onions to put it down the middle against Cech. Giggs' was calm and collective, couldn't expect anything less from someone with his experience. So glad Terry missed before that, never had such a bigh relief in my life! Everyone in the ground could see Anelka has his head down walking to the penalty spot, Electric Atomosphere in the Stands!!! Everyone went crazy when Edwin saved it! What a legend!

 

Trophy parade was quality, was about 5 meters away from them!

 

Was a fantastic experience. Bring on 2008/09!

 

mate, glad you had a great time, iv been a season ticket holder since the early 90s and would have love to go, unfortunately money was an issue big time

I think your summary of the game is the correct one, any NORMAL football fan would agree, its a pity that some people cant see the wood for the trees

bring on next season, cant wait.

VIVA RONALDO

[mortstar]

I think your summary of the game is the correct one, any NORMAL football fan would agree, its a pity that some people cant see the wood for the trees

bring on next season, cant wait.

VIVA RONALDO

 

+1, +1

 

Excellent summary of the game, basically I think we can all agree it was pretty even match on a knife edge. We cut Chelsea open more often, whilst Chelsea got a (typical) flukey goal that changed the flow of the game completely. They were unlucky hitting the bar but, over a season, United have played the much more attractive and attacking football.

 

The longer Chelsea go without winning it, the better for everyone.

 

Bring on next season when we finally catch up the dippers tally of Championships.

 

EDIT: Also, fantastic that the other 'Big 4' won sweet FA this year. What a season for United....only Distin's right ankle stopped it from being on a par with 99!

Edited May 23, 2008 by mortstar

[Inbir316]

+1, +1

 

Excellent summary of the game, basically I think we can all agree it was pretty even match on a knife edge. We cut Chelsea open more often, whilst Chelsea got a (typical) flukey goal that changed the flow of the game completely. They were unlucky hitting the bar but, over a season, United have played the much more attractive and attacking football.

 

The longer Chelsea go without winning it, the better for everyone.

 

Bring on next season when we finally catch up the dippers tally of Championships.

 

EDIT: Also, fantastic that the other 'Big 4' won sweet FA this year. What a season for United....only Distin's right ankle stopped it from being on a par with 99!

 

yawn..

[Inbir316]

Yawn.......that's history get over it.........

 

greatest champions league final in history...you'll never hear the end of it:D

[torledo]

The stats do not support that Utd were outplayed by Chelsea, Manchester United had More Possession, more teritorial advantage, Chelsea only managed to muster 1 shot on target in the entire 120 mins. So that plain facts are Manchester United were the better team.

 

one shot on target ? that is nitpicking and a classic example of how misleading statistics are - a goal in the first half, two efforts against the woodwork and ferdinand forced into making van der sar parry over doesn't constitute attempts on goals eh ?

 

In either case statistics like possession can never be used to guage who were the more threatening and who played the better football overall. I'm sure if you looked at the 98 world cup final, brazil would have had the lions share of possession...but that didn't stop france being the better team on the night.

 

Fair play to united, they won fair and square...in the final reckoning the width of an upright decided it. But i will reiterate, united lost the midfield just like they lost the midfield to chelsea at stamford bridge earlier in the season. If they can get a manager who can instill some discipline in the players and carry on the makalele, Ballack and lampard triangle into next season chelsea would be my favourites for the league. Who have united got to contest that midfield trio....

 

carrick is way down the pecking order for england consideration, anderson has done very little over the season, and scholes can't have many more seasons left in him. Hargreaves i think was a fantastic buy but he's being used as a utlity player like essien. Whereas lampard and ballack are at their peak playingin favoured positions and chelsea have a ready made replacement in essien should makalele decide to call it a day. Lampard (11m) and ballack (free) look like bargains compared to the carrick (16m) and anderson(??) purchases.

 

btw whoever said i was a liverpudlian or liverpool supporter should pipe down, 'cos i'm neither.

 

Oh and if having lampard, cole and ballack in a team doesn't equate to attractive football, then what does ?....united passing the ball long to ronaldo at every opportunity as the only threatning outlet ? Chelsea played the better more attractive football following the goal, so much for united being the neutrals favourite.

 

As for the goal being flukey...it's no fluke that lampard was the first to react and would have beaten van der sar from that position each and every time...slip or no slip. That's what he does steams into the box to pick up rebounds or to latch onto through balls...it's called being an attacking midfielder. Maybe someone should tell carrick about that, rather than sitting back as he admires each pass he makes.

Edited May 23, 2008 by torledo

[Elky]

No mention of Hargreaves in there?

 

And Makelele? I cant see him playing more than 20 games next season but Essien is top notch, one of the best in the prem in my opinion

 

I'm just hoping Chelsea let SWP come to Pompey. Him, Crouch and a couple of defenders and Pompey will be up there again this season! Harry brings the best out of players - SWP will love it at Fratton!