3s-gtech Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 I've mostly installed cleanly, as you'd expect to with a large site, but I've done a few-in-place upgrades on machines where the rebuild time may have been too long (certain service machines, a couple of specially set up workstations). Other than having to delete user profiles from those machines, both work okay. Nothing quite like a nice fresh install though.
DJ-1701 Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) Hi All, Perhaps a stupid question but have you all been doing in-situ upgrades from Windows 7 to Windows 10 or fresh installations? I've been googling like mad trying to find out what steps people have been taking to migrate from Windows 7 Pro or Enterprise editions to get to Windows 10 but all the steps out there seem to be for Home editions using the Media Creation Tool. Is it actually possible to upgrade from 7 Pro/Ent to 10 Pro/Ent or do you have to do a fresh install. My understanding from the various Microsoft marketing streams was that the days of wipe and reload were gone and that Windows 10 could be installed as in-situ upgrade. Am I wrong? You can, upgrade via SCCM, MDT and DVD, but we've mostly done it from fresh... mostly because in one school it used CompuSec total disk encryption on the laptops, and that doesn't work with Windows 10 so we also moved to Bitlocker. Also in the other school we have 32-Bit versions of Windows and wanted to installed 64, which required a fresh install. Also a fresh build is more likely to have less issues during the installation process as there is nothing to conflict. Edited November 27, 2018 by DJ-1701
unexus Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 You can, upgrade via SCCM, MDT and DVD, but we've mostly done it from fresh... mostly because in one school it used CompuSec total disk encryption on the laptops, and that doesn't work with Windows 10 so we also moved to Bitlocker. Also in the other school we have 32-Bit versions of Windows and wanted to installed 64, which required a fresh install. Also a fresh build is more likely to have less issues during the installation process as there is nothing to conflict. Thanks. So how have you done this with a DVD image? I just wanted to test the process on a couple of laptops. I mounted the Win10 image and ran setup but I never got the option to upgrade - it has just installed a fresh copy of Windows 10 and moved 7 installation to Windows.old. One post I found suggested this was the correct way to do an upgrade and not to boot from the DVD. ???
kingoranks Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 We are still on win 7 but in a couple of weeks we are getting new machines for a dept. Of course they will come with Win 10 but our environment is Win 7. Has anyone been in such situation before? what did you do?
6Foot2 Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 We are still on win 7 but in a couple of weeks we are getting new machines for a dept. Of course they will come with Win 10 but our environment is Win 7. Has anyone been in such situation before? what did you do? If you want to stay on Windows 7 are you making sure that any new stations do not have 7th generation CPUs? Link: Why Windows 7 Won’t Work On Intel’s Current & Next Gen CPUs [MakeUseOf.COM]
kingoranks Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 Hi DaveP, |Many thanks. I dont plan on putting win 7 on the new machines. I need to work out a temporary solution.
free780 Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 We are still on win 7 but in a couple of weeks we are getting new machines for a dept. Of course they will come with Win 10 but our environment is Win 7. Has anyone been in such situation before? what did you do?Update your Admxs. Create a test OU. Put a test VM with Windows 10 edu block inheritance . Join the domain and tweak the computer GPO settings. Then create a test user and do a user GPO. Try not to use any Windows 7 policies as a lot has change in Windows 10. Use MDT/Configmgr to create images. With just over a year to go for Win7 support this Summer may be crunch time. 2
1TF0rward Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 Only just upgraded from XP! (The guy before me). Got some Windows 10 machines for testing GPO and software. Looking good and rolling out as soon as we get SSD's and SCCM set up.
TCTC Posted May 3, 2019 Author Posted May 3, 2019 We are still on Windows 7, only just having added Windows 10 build capability to SCCM, and Windows 10 Group Policies to our DCs. Haven't managed to add the required drivers to the SCCM build tasks, so while the stations build they do not add themselves to the network due to missing network card drivers. How different are your Windows 10 GPO's compared to Windows 7? Are there any settings you would or would not recommend using? I'll need to have them working along my Windows 7 clients until all have been upgraded! Thanks
6Foot2 Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 How different are your Windows 10 GPO's compared to Windows 7? Are there any settings you would or would not recommend using? I'll need to have them working along my Windows 7 clients until all have been upgraded! Thanks Some policies vary widely (Windows 10 vs Windows 7) Our LEA have separated policies for each OS (duplicated in some instances (eg: When deploring 'Room 1' printer, there are two policies one for Windows 1 and 1 for Windows 10) They have applied WMI filtering to ensure that the policies get applied to the correct OS/computer. While we are still on Windows 7 over most of the network, some staff have volunteered to test Windows 10 in offices and classrooms. We plan to be Windows 10 across the network by the start of the Autumn term (Cutting it fine...)
TCTC Posted May 3, 2019 Author Posted May 3, 2019 Some policies vary widely (Windows 10 vs Windows 7) Our LEA have separated policies for each OS (duplicated in some instances (eg: When deploring 'Room 1' printer, there are two policies one for Windows 1 and 1 for Windows 10) They have applied WMI filtering to ensure that the policies get applied to the correct OS/computer. While we are still on Windows 7 over most of the network, some staff have volunteered to test Windows 10 in offices and classrooms. We plan to be Windows 10 across the network by the start of the Autumn term (Cutting it fine...) So you have separate GPO's for 7 and 10 and just name them so you know the difference? I've updated the Admins but not sure if I have windows 10 policies, how can I check? Thanks
TCTC Posted May 3, 2019 Author Posted May 3, 2019 In the long term I want to use SCCM to deploy Windows 10 (plug everything else it does) but at the moment I don't have a Server capacity to do this! I need to deploy Windows 10 for testing purposes to around ten machines - what's the easiest way of doing this? Thanks
DrBeaker Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 2x devices that I know of - An old standalone PC in my office and a laptop in school. We're on 8.1 for everything else and migrating to Windows 10 along with upgrades/new PCs at the same time.
Ditto Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 The vast majority of PCs (a few hundred) are still on Windows 7. I highlighted that the end date is nearing this week in a team meeting. I see a desire to upgrade, but I don't see any plan and I see limited resourcing to get the job done, and the resource pool is shrinking! As a reasonable sized MAT, I'm hoping there is the necessary expertise to lead the way forward, but as of yet, I'm not seeing the project management skills in place to drive this forward, either locally within the school or in the wider MAT.
chris_uk Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 In the long term I want to use SCCM to deploy Windows 10 (plug everything else it does) but at the moment I don't have a Server capacity to do this! I need to deploy Windows 10 for testing purposes to around ten machines - what's the easiest way of doing this? Thanks Are you around the Surrey area?
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