plock Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Staff are enquiring about 4 On Demand, is this something we can roll out and so forth. Have any of you done this as yet? The application is an exe, has anyone packaged or looked at deployment as yet? Our staffs often use BBC iPlayer to show bits of programs, for example Dragons Den in Business Studies. They would like to do the same with Chanel 4 programs.
FN-GM Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 We install it on teacher machines only, and as they ask for it. We block it for students.
plock Posted February 12, 2008 Author Posted February 12, 2008 @FN-Greatermanchester - Staff will have access to it only too. However, I don't wish to install it on nearly 100 members of staff machines! Our staff all like to have access to everything! I'm thinking along the lines of deploying via GP - to only Staff OU's.
john Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 The client doesn't like us, even on our Admin, un-filtered and restricted PCs it never works for 4OD, but iPlayer works ace
plock Posted February 12, 2008 Author Posted February 12, 2008 @john - I must admit iPlayer wins my vote all the time! Nice and simple setup, nothing like the 4OD client! Staff can benefit from iPlayer without our assistance at all!
ZeroHour Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I would not run that on your network. Its agent (Kontiki) will soak up bandwidth to p2p it to other users. If by iPlayer you mean the streaming part then its okay. The download should be avoided though as both it and 4OD use the Kontiki to share what you download. The fact they use the same system actually can cause compatibility issues if they use different versions of Kontiki. Sky By PC uses Kontiki too. I have successfully got them installed at home on one pc though but I think it was more luck then anything. I think if you install in the correct order it will work.
plock Posted February 13, 2008 Author Posted February 13, 2008 @ZeroHour - Thanks for your comments. I do mean the streaming part of iPlayer. I would like staff to benifit from the steaming part of 4OD. Is this not possible?
ZeroHour Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I was pretty sure all of 4OD was based on Kontiki, so if you install it and stream something chances are you will be a cache for others. Just imaging 25 idle pc's sharing out over p2p. Eveything net related could die badly. I will have a go at the streaming part again tonight and monitor whats going where but I think it probably uses Kontiki to at least ease their bandwidth requirements at there end. 2
iatkinson Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I would not run that on your network. Its agent (Kontiki) will soak up bandwidth to p2p it to other users. If by iPlayer you mean the streaming part then its okay. The download should be avoided though as both it and 4OD use the Kontiki to share what you download. The fact they use the same system actually can cause compatibility issues if they use different versions of Kontiki. Sky By PC uses Kontiki too. I have successfully got them installed at home on one pc though but I think it was more luck then anything. I think if you install in the correct order it will work. We've started to have issues because of kontiki as well. By all means stream from iplayer but wouldn't recomend installing either iplayer or 4oD, particularly not 4oD...kontiki doesn't disable easily for either and has had serious speed restriction issues on several laptops here. 1
plock Posted February 13, 2008 Author Posted February 13, 2008 Thanks everyone for your input! I've discovered that deploying 4OD isn't the way forward! Ah well, staff will have to enjoy streaming content from the BBC!
carlsimo1 Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 I take it your in education, Are you behind a corporate firewall or do you have your own on site firewall, if so, make an exempt rule for akamaistream.net this is the website which hosts the streaming for 4 On Demand
User3204 Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 if so, make an exempt rule for akamaistream.net this is the website which hosts the streaming for 4 On Demand And for half the world... Akamai does co-hosting for lots of sites.
maniac Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 I wonder if it's possible to adjust firewall rules to prevent the 4OD client uploading its content to users? I'm not familure with how it works, so I've no idea what protocols it uses etc. so it's just a stab in the dark. Mike.
carlsimo1 Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 And for half the world... Akamai does co-hosting for lots of sites. Akami HOST liek 80% of the internet, even microsoft some intersting facts there, they one hughe internet giant! but not heard of by most people!
Antp Posted October 5, 2008 Posted October 5, 2008 @ZeroHour - Thanks for your comments. I do mean the streaming part of iPlayer. I would like staff to benifit from the steaming part of 4OD. Is this not possible? id like to point out that you can now access the last seven days of any channel4 show on their website here http://www.channel4.com/watch_online/ this works only with the latest drm installed (my school wont install the latest drm!) and works very well.
kearton Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 id like to point out that you can now access the last seven days of any channel4 show on their website here http://www.channel4.com/watch_online/ this works only with the latest drm installed (my school wont install the latest drm!) and works very well. I've got a teacher wanting to use C4's Catchup Player to play this: Catch Up It played the adverts and then stopped. After a little digging around I found this link which has fixed the problem on his PC: Security component upgrade However, this is a manual process. Does anyone have an automated solution? e.g MSI I can deploy via Group Policy or suchlike??
Ben_Stanton Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I was speaking with the guy in charge of 4OD the other day, he says they are moving away from the current format and going over to streaming flash like iPlayer pretty soon. Ben
kearton Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I was speaking with the guy in charge of 4OD the other day, he says they are moving away from the current format and going over to streaming flash like iPlayer pretty soon. Oh. Did he indicate any sort of timeframe for this? Apologies to Plock for slightly hijacking his thread (but it was related, sortof...)
ZeroHour Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I was speaking with the guy in charge of 4OD the other day, he says they are moving away from the current format and going over to streaming flash like iPlayer pretty soon. Ben I assume this is kinda project kangaroo
K.C.Leblanc Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I spotted Channel 4 clip bank at BETT. It's not free (I didn't have time to ask how much?), but I might solution worth looking at, particularly if you can get departments to split the cost. Channel 4 Learning - Clipbank - Home
Ben_Stanton Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Oh. Did he indicate any sort of timeframe for this? Apologies to Plock for slightly hijacking his thread (but it was related, sortof...) Not too sure, was only in passing really. Spoken to him many times but never knew what he did. I have his contact details so might pop him an email. Or may even see him next week. I'll keep you updated. Ben 1
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