kennysarmy Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 Our computers have started rebooting after doing windows updates without giving the user the option to restart later. What have I done? lol
ChrisH Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 Ocassionally theres updates like this that dont follow "the rules" I havent noticed this behaviour with the last batch of updates though. You best double check your policies just in case.
Gatt Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 We had this recently, whre it forced a reboot after 30 seconds
intrigue Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 What have I done? lol You dare to use windows update and expect it to go swimmingly? haha I have not had that happen yet but i will look forward to it. Matt
K.C.Leblanc Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 Is this just effecting workstations, or servers aswell?
kennysarmy Posted December 13, 2007 Author Posted December 13, 2007 at the moment just worktstations. yesterday my pc was updated automatically and i was bugged all day with the pop up asking whether i wanted to restart NOW or LATER - so i just did it at the end of the day - seems something is preventing this message appearing for the restricted student and teacher accounts. Will trawl through the policies first I think...
Geoff Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 My home PC rebooted overnight without me telling it to.
richard.thomas Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 On Vista by default it'll restart 10minutes after the update has been installed. If you're at the computer then you can postpone it or set it to remind me in a set amount of time... Quite frustrating if you've left your computer on overnight for a reason!
intrigue Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 My home PC rebooted overnight without me telling it to. Mine did that last night. Hmmm how annoying. I assumed it was a power cut or something Matt
Geoff Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 No it was definitely windows update that did it. I caught it doing the 30 second timer thing earlier in the night.
kennysarmy Posted December 13, 2007 Author Posted December 13, 2007 Under Computer Configuration, expand Administrative Templates, expand Windows Components, and then expand Windows Update. No auto-restart for scheduled Automatic Updates installations This policy specifies that Automatic Updates will wait for the computer to be restarted by any user who is logged on to complete a scheduled installation. If this policy is not used, the computer restarts automatically. I've set this to enabled - see what happens.
Geoff Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 Yes, I had this enabled. My machine still rebooted.
zag Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 Yep got computers rebooting here as well even though we have a global policy not to! Something in the latest update I think.
Guest richard Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 Yep got computers rebooting here as well even though we have a global policy not to! Something in the latest update I think. Same here as well.
bandgeekmafia78 Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 We had this problem last week in a couple of computer suites. Seems to have calmed itself down now though.
kennysarmy Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 Must be that time of the month again.... Getting complaints this morning of pc's rebooting without warning... Dug in to the GPO setting and found a few....anyone think these could cause the suppression of the question to reboot now or later? ____ Windows Components/Windows Updatehide Policy Setting Winning GPO Remove access to use all Windows Update features Enabled Lockdown - Staff, Pupils, Finance &GLOSCAT and Remove links and access to Windows Update Enabled Lockdown - Staff, Pupils, Finance &GLOSCAT and Configure Automatic Updates Enabled Default Domain Policy Configure automatic updating: 4 - Auto download and schedule the install The following settings are only required and applicable if 4 is selected. Scheduled install day: 0 - Every day Scheduled install time: 02:00
kennysarmy Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 further to my last post: 4 = Automatically download updates and install them on the schedule specified below Specify the schedule using the options in the Group Policy Setting. If no schedule is specified, the default schedule for all installations will be everyday at 3:00 AM. If any of the updates require a restart to complete the installation, Windows will restart the computer automatically. (If a user is logged on to the computer when Windows is ready to restart, the user will be notified and given the option to delay the restart.) HA - no it F*ck*n does nt.....
ICT_GUY Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 I love it when it does this, I simply smile and give them my best look and say the imortal words> Well you did save your work regularly didn't you
enjay Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 at the moment just worktstations. yesterday my pc was updated automatically and i was bugged all day with the pop up asking whether i wanted to restart NOW or LATER - so i just did it at the end of the day - seems something is preventing this message appearing for the restricted student and teacher accounts. Will trawl through the policies first I think... Is this our old friend the system user? Under XPSP2 - or at least RM's implementation of it - processes running as the system user don't interact with the user (hence why RM's print credits stopped telling users they couldn't print). If Windows Update is being run by the system, not the user, it will be suppressing the messages but still do the count down, thus the PC will reboot seemingly without warning.
kennysarmy Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 it is XP SP2 (but not any RM stuff here)... so is there a way around it? regards.
Geoff Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 You need to allow windows update notifications for non-admins. It's a user policy setting in Admin templates -> Windows components -> Windows Update
enjay Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 it is XP SP2 (but not any RM stuff here)... so is there a way around it? regards. Now I think about it, I remember that it is an MS "feature" not an RM one. IIRC, MS felt that because it can be a potential security risk, they're going to block it wholesale rather than try and find a decent solution. Kind of like banning the sale of cars because they might be used for a hit-and-run. Unless you can time your updates so that they only go out a time that the reboots won't affect people, I'm not sure there's much you can do about it.
kennysarmy Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 You need to allow windows update notifications for non-admins. It's a user policy setting in Admin templates -> Windows components -> Windows Update Screenshot attached... I don't seem to have the setting to which you refer - or I am being a dumb ass
kennysarmy Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 I did find it in computer configuration - so have enbled the policy in there... wonder if that will do it lol
Geoff Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 right, sorry yes. It's in computer configuration.
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