High Capacity Printer.

[boomam]

Hi.

 

Can anyone recommend a high capacity network mono laser printer?

 

We've been struggling for a while now with high capacity printing.

First we replaced the existing HP 1320n with a Brother HL-5270DN. Which while more economical on the toner, the drums worn out already (25k capacity).

So we're looking for another printer, upto £1000 in price, thats got a drum life of at least 50k. Preferably 75k+

 

Ideas?

 

Thanks in advance all. .

[Geoff]

You get what you pay for and I don't think a £1000 printer is beefy enough to meet your specs.

[maniac]

Buy an HP printer, and every time you change the cartridge, you also change the drum. Works out overall about the same cost wise, but it's one less bit to keep in stock.

 

We have 2 HP 4200n printers in our high output areas, which I think have been superseeded by the 4250n http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=236316&CatId=0

 

The cartridges on these last ages, not sure on the page count, but it's many thousends of pages. Only other thing you need to buy every now and then is a maintenance kit which is about £150, but in 2 years I've only just had to buy one of these for it.

 

Mike.

[Geoff]

Have you considered leasing a networkable photocopier?

[boomam]

Buy an HP printer, and every time you change the cartridge, you also change the drum. Works out overall about the same cost wise, but it's one less bit to keep in stock.

 

We have 2 HP 4200n printers in our high output areas, which I think have been superseeded by the 4250n http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=236316&CatId=0

 

The cartridges on these last ages, not sure on the page count, but it's many thousends of pages. Only other thing you need to buy every now and then is a maintenance kit which is about £150, but in 2 years I've only just had to buy one of these for it.

 

Mike.

Is the 4350 the next one up from that do you know?

 

What sort of throughput do you find it has, out of curiosity? (how many pages between toners, drums, ect;).

 

Have you considered leasing a networkable photocopier?

We already have some, in our reprographics room.

But we need a high capacity printer in our reception as well.

 

Thanks again in advance everyone. .

[dhicks]

I second the rent-a-printer idea, but otherwise TellyGenicom might be the people to look at. Seemingly their expertise is in high-end, high-capacity printers, but they're now trying to move in on the education market. They were at BETT last year and seemed to know what they were talking about.

 

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David Hicks

[localzuk]

One thing you haven't said is what your monthly usage actually is...

[ICT_GUY]

Do what we do,

 

Buy a cheap printer and throw it away when broken.

 

IJT to a little HP job for £99 with 10K worth of toner (including drum). So after 10k of printing you bin it and use another.

 

£1000 gives you 100k of printing, job done. though you will have a stack of printers at the end, but you can sell them on if you like

[DMcCoy]

I've not bought anything from IJT since I had to put an HP8550DTN in the skip

 

Do you not have many printers or are you just printing huge amounts of stuff?

[localzuk]

Do what we do,

 

Buy a cheap printer and throw it away when broken.

 

IJT to a little HP job for £99 with 10K worth of toner (including drum). So after 10k of printing you bin it and use another.

 

£1000 gives you 100k of printing, job done. though you will have a stack of printers at the end, but you can sell them on if you like

 

Not very environmentally friendly though is it?

[steveg]

I'd have a look at the dell range, the 5310n should meet your needs, and for the budget you should be able to get it with a 4 year onsite warranty. I've been using the previous generation 5300 for 3 years now and haven't had a single problem with it, although we only run about 500 - 1000 pages a month through it, it should handle 4000 - 16,000 at 48ppm, and is cheap to run.

 

Steve

[maniac]

Is the 4350 the next one up from that do you know?

 

What sort of throughput do you find it has, out of curiosity? (how many pages between toners, drums, ect;).

 

I think the 4350 is the next one up, but not totally up-to-date with HP's current range.

 

I can check the page count tomorrow, but we don't look at it between cartridge changes so not sure on pages between cartridge changes. It gives a low cartridge warning at 1500 pages which is suposidly 15%, so one cartridge is supposed to do 10,000 pages. The heaviest used one is in our main office, and they print a lot of whole school mail merged letters and we only change the cartridge about 3 or 4 times a year. The speed it prints at is exceptional, and reliability is also excellent; very rarely do we get called to fix problems with it.

 

Mike

[boomam]

I think the 4350 is the next one up, but not totally up-to-date with HP's current range.

 

I can check the page count tomorrow, but we don't look at it between cartridge changes so not sure on pages between cartridge changes. It gives a low cartridge warning at 1500 pages which is suposidly 15%, so one cartridge is supposed to do 10,000 pages. The heaviest used one is in our main office, and they print a lot of whole school mail merged letters and we only change the cartridge about 3 or 4 times a year. The speed it prints at is exceptional, and reliability is also excellent; very rarely do we get called to fix problems with it.

Thats similar to what our office prints.

I think i'll look into the 4350...

 

One thing you haven't said is what your monthly usage actually is...

Correct, but i have said that we've very quickly used up a 25k drum unit on the existing printer. Monthy usage isnt something we can 'count' on our admin system, as theres nothing in place to count it.

 

Do you not have many printers or are you just printing huge amounts of stuff?

Loads of printers.

Just not very many on the admin system. Plus, its a printer for arguably the most used printer in the entire school.

[localzuk]

One thing you haven't said is what your monthly usage actually is...

Correct, but i have said that we've very quickly used up a 25k drum unit on the existing printer. Monthy usage isnt something we can 'count' on our admin system, as theres nothing in place to count it.

 

How long is quickly? A month? 2 months?

[torledo]

Hi.

 

Can anyone recommend a high capacity network mono laser printer?

 

We've been struggling for a while now with high capacity printing.

First we replaced the existing HP 1320n with a Brother HL-5270DN. Which while more economical on the toner, the drums worn out already (25k capacity).

So we're looking for another printer, upto £1000 in price, thats got a drum life of at least 50k. Preferably 75k+

 

Ideas?

 

Thanks in advance all. .

 

Get a Kyocera if you can afford it as they make top quality workgroup printers, try the FS-9130DN. May need to stretch your budget by about £500 but you'll NEVER have to replace it. Unless you need colour that is in which case buy another Kyocera

[ICT_GUY]

Do what we do,

 

Buy a cheap printer and throw it away when broken.

 

IJT to a little HP job for £99 with 10K worth of toner (including drum). So after 10k of printing you bin it and use another.

 

£1000 gives you 100k of printing, job done. though you will have a stack of printers at the end, but you can sell them on if you like

 

Not very environmentally friendly though is it?

 

For us 10k of printing is a years worth per printer. Besides it comes down to cost, at the moment landfill is cheap and my budget very small. :?

[maniac]

From our print management system, statistics for my 4200n printer in our main office.

 

======================

Statistics for Main Office (HP 4200) over last 90 days

Jobs Printed 1,868

Total Pages 10,846

Total Cost 542.30

Average pages per job 5.81

Average cost per job 0.29

KB processed (sum of spool file sizes) 2,542,096

Duplex Jobs 3

GrayScale Jobs 1,868

Denied Jobs 0

Cancelled Jobs 0

Refunded Jobs 0

=====================

 

I've only just changed the cartridge for the first time this academic year, so all this printing was definitely done on one cartridge. Ignore the costing, this is because we put a flat rate of 5p per page in, in reality this is a lot lower for this printer.

 

Mike.

[KarlGoddard]

Buy an HP printer, and every time you change the cartridge, you also change the drum. Works out overall about the same cost wise, but it's one less bit to keep in stock.

 

We have 2 HP 4200n printers in our high output areas, which I think have been superseeded by the 4250n http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=236316&CatId=0

 

The cartridges on these last ages, not sure on the page count, but it's many thousends of pages. Only other thing you need to buy every now and then is a maintenance kit which is about £150, but in 2 years I've only just had to buy one of these for it.

 

Mike.

 

Another vote here for HP4250's We have one of these in our main office and it 'just works' - printing is fast and copes with everything thrown at it by our office staff.

 

It gets a fair hammering by the office staff - a 12000 yield toner lasts about 11 weeks and I think I've replaced the maintenance kit once in the past 18 months. It's a solid workhorse of a printer.

 

If you're taking about a usage that goes to several thousand sheets a week, I'd seriously look into doing what Geoff said and leasing a network photocopier with a good service contract!

[boomam]

How long is quickly? A month? 2 months?

2-3 months.

 

I think we're gonna plump for the 4250 with a 256Mb RAM upgrade.

With Toners that'll do 20k and the maintence kit every 12-18months, it should do quite well for us. I hope.

[bossman]

Hp 4250s here good for 60k turnover a month drum changes after 100k price from XMA approx £600 HV toner cartridge £110 bloody good value for money.