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Hi all

 

We have traditionally used 'clonezilla' for our imaging needs. This has involved creating a machine specific disk image with OS, major Applications and software tweaks. We then sysprep the PC, shut down and capture the image. Deployment is manual via booting the client pcs up with clonezilla CDRom, connecting to the share and then downloading the image onto the pc. Its a bit labour intensive but has been a reliable and fast solution.

 

However we've now taken on Windows 8 tablets of which cannot be imaged using the above process. 'Apparently' they simply cannot be booted via CDROM or USB into a clonezilla environment.

 

What process would you advise that we change to?

 

Ideally we want to be able to image the OS and apps in one go like we currently do. We do use APPV for a number of apps but still locally install the likes of Office, Cs6 etc.

 

Regards

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It's a very good question! I would say PXE boot, but no doubt these tablets probably don't have a Ethernet port either. Not sure if it's even possible to do a wireless PXE boot, or more to the point, why would you want to? :) Pulling a 15GB file over wireless is going to be painful.

 

Can you boot from a specially formatted USB flash drive? What options are offered in the BIOS?

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It's a very good question! I would say PXE boot, but no doubt these tablets probably don't have a Ethernet port either. Not sure if it's even possible to do a wireless PXE boot, or more to the point, why would you want to? :) Pulling a 15GB file over wireless is going to be painful.

 

Can you boot from a specially formatted USB flash drive? What options are offered in the BIOS?

 

Use MDT then you can make a USB boot key that either hooks up to the network to download and apply the image or dumps all the necessary files on a bootable USB that will still boot under EFI.

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It's a very good question! I would say PXE boot, but no doubt these tablets probably don't have a Ethernet port either. Not sure if it's even possible to do a wireless PXE boot, or more to the point, why would you want to? :) Pulling a 15GB file over wireless is going to be painful.

 

Can you boot from a specially formatted USB flash drive? What options are offered in the BIOS?

 

We PXE boot the Dell Venue tablets using the optional docking station, works great!

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I used clonezilla in my previous school and yeah it did a job but it's got nothing on MDT or fog. We use fog here and in a number of our primary schools and it works really well. If I were you I would use fog and just get a USB to ethernet adapter and use the PXE boot. I have it running off an UBUNTU VM with a couple of gigs of ram. It builds a nice little inventory system which binds to the computers MAC address making it real easy to deploy/capture an image and will rename the machine after the cloning process completes.
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I used clonezilla in my previous school and yeah it did a job but it's got nothing on MDT or fog. We use fog here and in a number of our primary schools and it works really well. If I were you I would use fog and just get a USB to ethernet adapter and use the PXE boot. I have it running off an UBUNTU VM with a couple of gigs of ram. It builds a nice little inventory system which binds to the computers MAC address making it real easy to deploy/capture an image and will rename the machine after the cloning process completes.

@jonnykewell1 - Have you got FOG working with Windows 8? Not tried here but heard it was a pain due to UEFI and the multiple partitions W8 creates.

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What process would you advise that we change to?

 

We used to use FOG, but it doesn't handle different sized disks very well, so now we've moved to PXE booting the OS install image and having that do an unattended install. We have this working well with Windows 8.1 at the moment, I hope to add Debian and Server 2012 (for testing Ceph / Windows Storage Spaces) soon. We have all our software install via a script that runs after the install process is complete - ideally we would distribute all software via MSI files and GPOs, but we have assorted software that only comes with an executable installer.

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@jonnykewell1 - Have you got FOG working with Windows 8? Not tried here but heard it was a pain due to UEFI and the multiple partitions W8 creates.

 

installing from anything to a uefi/secureboot pc is a pita be it network or usb

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MDT. Though I would recommend away from thick images unless necessary.

 

i think the best solution is half and half install office and updates to an image and thats it everything else via script/gpo/task sequence at end

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MDT. Though I would recommend away from thick images unless necessary.

 

I prefer hybrids. Every PC in the college gets a certain software loadout (Office, Adobe CC, Visual Studio, others). These are mostly large packages, it makes no sense to deploy them after the OS is deployed if they're going everywhere.

 

installing from anything to a uefi/secureboot pc is a pita be it network or usb

 

Installing an OS to a secureboot enabled machine is easy enough to do if you're deploying from the correct environment. I use SCCM 2012 SP1 with a PXE enabled DP running on Windows 2012, no problems here so far.

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I prefer hybrids. Every PC in the college gets a certain software loadout (Office, Adobe CC, Visual Studio, others). These are mostly large packages, it makes no sense to deploy them after the OS is deployed if they're going everywhere.

 

 

 

Installing an OS to a secureboot enabled machine is easy enough to do if you're deploying from the correct environment. I use SCCM 2012 SP1 with a PXE enabled DP running on Windows 2012, no problems here so far.

 

generally ive got mdt2012 and server 08r2. I spent ages once trying to get it to work i noe jusy turn it all off one day will reevaluate

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That's the problem then. You need WDS running on Windows Server 2012 or higher for PXE and secureboot to work. 2008 R2 doesn't cut it as I found out when I tried to get it working.

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