Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 With the date getting steadily closer (just under 7 months I believe..) I though I'd try and find out how people on here think about it. Whilst I am keen to hear peoples reasons for their response, can I please ask that we keep it civil and don't let this descend into the old hatred comments between Scotland & England/RUK - they are not exactly conducive to the debate in hand.
featured_spectre Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Im not fussed either way. What I am fussed with is Salmond I'm thinking he can pick and choose what to keep and what to get rid of. He wants to keep the nhs centrally funded, keep the pound and ensure the north Sea oil is all Scottish. He is a bit nuts. 1
Domino Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 @ZeroHour should be an independent nation. Mostly for our safety... 2
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 Im not fussed either way. What I am fussed with is Salmond I'm thinking he can pick and choose what to keep and what to get rid of. He wants to keep the nhs centrally funded, keep the pound and ensure the north Sea oil is all Scottish. Agree with all of this - which I why I would (if I could) vote No. He is a bit nuts. That could be said of a lot of MPs and MSPs though!
Bradlys Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 To be honest, I don't really care, at the end of the day we're a connected island which shares it's land, we travel to and from each other so why not let them be independent?
Sdrawkcab Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 An Independent Scotland <> an SNP government
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 An Independent Scotland <> an SNP government In my view, a "No" Vote would pretty much guarantee anybody BUT an SNP government next time round! Salmond's political career is riding on this vote..
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 This shows the current trend in voting so far: Should Scotland be an independent country? | What Scotland Thinks 1
SovietRussia Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 If this goes through, Scotland are going to "eject" our nuclear weapons, bare in mind, no where in the UK has the capability to look after them, meaning more money spent on Trident and its eventual successor - they kicked up a big stink with trying to get into NATO with this, as USA wanted to be sure they could still "park" their nuclear subs in Scotland.
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 If this goes through, Scotland are going to "eject" our nuclear weapons, bare in mind, no where in the UK has the capability to look after them, meaning more money spent on Trident and its eventual successor - they kicked up a big stink with trying to get into NATO with this, as USA wanted to be sure they could still "park" their nuclear subs in Scotland. One of the many quirks in the SNP's campaign - as I though that to be a Member of NATO, you need to either have Nuclear Weapons or be willing to store the from other Member states?
TechMonkey Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I would rather a No vote but don't mind, if the Scots feel they have to go their own way then we can't really stop them. I'm just getting annoyed with the Yes campaigns tactics of basically sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "LA LA LA LA LA LA" loudly. A question comes up, various people in the know or high up in the group that would deal with the issue give an answer and yet SNP members turn around and say that is wrong, course they can do what they want, no one can stop them as it would be unfair and bullying which isn't allowed of a new country. The other tactic is saying that something would be sorted once a Yes vote was secured. It feels very much like they can get away with saying how wonderful everything will be and everything will slot in to place without any real facts. Part of me would love for the Yes vote to go through just to see what would happen and how long before Salmond would implode.
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 I would rather a No vote but don't mind, if the Scots feel they have to go their own way then we can't really stop them. I'm just getting annoyed with the Yes campaigns tactics of basically sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "LA LA LA LA LA LA" loudly. A question comes up, various people in the know or high up in the group that would deal with the issue give an answer and yet SNP members turn around and say that is wrong, course they can do what they want, no one can stop them as it would be unfair and bullying which isn't allowed of a new country. The other tactic is saying that something would be sorted once a Yes vote was secured. It feels very much like they can get away with saying how wonderful everything will be and everything will slot in to place without any real facts. Salmond is like a stroppy teenager when he doesn't get his own way and blames everyone else but himself - he really needs to get a grip of the issues and listen to what the other side is saying about the currency and that of the EU - these 2 area alone they have absolutely no influence over. ...how long before Salmond would implode. That really isn't an image I wanted swimming around in my head..
6Foot2 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 It might be interesting to use the free poll site I posted about yesterday on this poll too: Link: http://www.edugeek.net/forums/links/132150-surveymapper-free-real-time-geographic-survey-polling-tool.html
featured_spectre Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 @ZeroHour should be an independent nation. Mostly for our safety... Would people still have the right to enter @ZeroHour?
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 Would people still have the right to enter @ZeroHour? Oooh Matron!
Mcshammer_dj Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Would people still have the right to enter @ZeroHour? Yeah I am not sure that entering zerohour has ever come up as an reason to halt scottish independance
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 Yeah I am not sure that entering zerohour has ever come up as an reason to halt scottish independance And is probably best left not being being one!
mthomas08 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 My mothers side of the family are all Scots, other half has struggled to understand my gran. As much as they "The English" as I get called, they admit that leaving would be a bad idea and most people voting for it just have a problem with the "English" and don't consider the bigger picture.
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 My mothers side of the family are all Scots, other half has struggled to understand my gran. As much as they "The English" as I get called, they admit that leaving would be a bad idea and most people voting for it just have a problem with the "English" and don't consider the bigger picture. This is my fear - that most of the "Yes" camp are thinking like this. (IMHO that is - I could be wrong!)
Oaktech Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Would people still have the right to enter @ZeroHour? I expect the immigration policy would be something to behold...
localzuk Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Salmond is delusional. He took a warning about joining the EU, from someone who could be seen as an expert on the subject, saying that Scotland would face a real problem trying to join the bloc due to countries like Spain disliking the very concept of breakaway states. Spain don't oppose it based on the merits of the particular country but on the basis that it'll encourage those areas within its own borders that have desires to become independent. He also seems to think that Scotland has a say over whether they get to keep the Sterling. It would be an economic nightmare for the remaining UK area to have themselves tied financially to a country which they have no control over. It just wouldn't happen.
sparkeh Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I do hope that result is a 'No' as I do think we are all stronger together but if the Scot do want independence then fine. However I do fear what a post 'Yes' result Scotland would be like for the people living there as Alex Salmond appears to be at best ill informed on issues such as EU membership and retaining Sterling and at worst delusional.
Gatt Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 I do hope that result is a 'No' as I do think we are all stronger together but if the Scot do want independence then fine. However I do fear what a post 'Yes' result Scotland would be like for the people living there as Alex Salmond appears to be at best ill informed on issues such as EU membership and retaining Sterling and at worst delusional. He's certainly not ill informed considering the number of people telling him the same story - He just chooses to put if fingers in his ears and go.. :lalala:
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