Dungeon Keeper Mobile

[CAM]

A lot of apps use it but there is a catch, they cannot see how many stars you rated an app. So the 5 stars is just a suggestion, not an enforcement, although worded in such a manner that you think they do know what rating you gave the app and that you won't get a reward if you vote less. The entire mobile "game" market has nothing at all to do with gaming and everything to do with being a crafty social engineering playground.

 

Why else do you get rewards in Farmville for asking friends for help? Social engineering to make you recruit more people. Or using weird virtual currencies like Gems or Doughnuts in-place of actual monetary values? To devalue the currency and allow crafty tricks like offering currency in steps of 500 / 1000 / 2000 and pricing items at strangely non-rounded prices like 550 or 1600 to force you to buy the more expensive exchange tiers. (In this example, you'd have to buy 1000 instead of just 500 for the 550 item, or 2000 instead of 1000+500 for the 1600 item).

 

Even titles like Loadout are crafty. They know the childish humour of the game will appeal to the audience, hence pricing ~£35 which is well over the cost of normal "skins" to allow the player to take off their pants... (yes, actual example! Pardon the pun too...)

 

Do a bit of research into the social engineering that takes place in the F2P market and you'd see what really goes on to dupe you into their back pockets and stop playing such titles rather quickly.

[Garacesh]

Oh, I know plenty about the social engineering of it and I think it's absolutely abhorrent - especially when used in games aimed at the young such as the My Little Pony game which received a tonne of controversy.

 

There's only one game I've made in-app purchases for, and that's Sonic Dash. Why? Because I needed to buy things to progress?

Nah, I enjoyed the game and didn't mind paying to around £2 remove the ads and actually give something back to the developers that made the game I've spent a little too much time on.

Gotten up to world 4 in PvZ2 without spending a penny and I'm going to complete the game (when I get round to it..) in just the same manner.

 

I tell a lie. I also purchased the full version of Plague Inc. and its add-on disease types. But that's paying for content, and I don't mind that because I don't feel the game was released with content cut to make you sponge on DLC (like common AAA titles these days that you don't even get for free!)

Edited February 6, 2014 by Garacesh

[ICTDirect_Dave]

I tell a lie. I also purchased the full version of Plague Inc. and its add-on disease types. But that's paying for content, and I don't mind that because I don't feel the game was released with content cut to make you sponge on DLC (like common AAA titles these days that you don't even get for free!)

 

Good point here. The DLC for Plague Inc is well worth the extra dollar! But then that's an example of well a game can be marketed for mobiles.

[Nibiru]

The backlash is growing...

 

BBC News - EA faces criticism over mobile Dungeon Keeper game

[Gatt]

That is shocking! Really really shocking!

Loved DK on the PC and this has now made me want to head over to GOG and get it!

 

NerdCubed is spot on with the insanity of the new game! Will be steering the heck away from that one!

[BKGarry]

this looks to be in the spirit of the original DK

 

https://wftogame.com

 

Now do I sign up to steam purely for it?

[Gatt]

this looks to be in the spirit of the original DK

 

https://wftogame.com

 

Now do I sign up to steam purely for it?

 

 

Hell Yeah!

[Arthur]

Reading the reviews for DK mobile in the ios app store is hilarious they have so obviously paid for reviewers to knock back at everything people are complaining about.

The Android version of the game is even worse.

 

EA steers angry customers away from reviewing games at Google Play « The Verge

 

Two-time "Worst Company In America" winner Electronic Arts isn't doing its publicity department any favours. The company's new freemium game Dungeon Keeper tricks frustrated players into leaving bad reviews on its own site, instead of on the Google Play Store, Gamasutra reports.

 

Here's exactly how the ruse plays out: Dungeon Keeper, like most mobile apps, prompts players every so often to give it a rating on the Google Play Store or App Store. In the Android version of the game, there are two possible outcomes when you get a rating prompt. If you choose five stars, you're gently nudged over to the Google Play Store to leave a review. If you choose between one and four stars, Dungeon Keeper pops up an email form where you can only send feedback to developer EA instead of publicly voicing your concerns. You can still, of course, manually visit the Google Play Store and leave a bad review, but in a world where the difference between a success or failure of an app often comes down to its reviews, EA is stacking the deck in its favor.

 

[sparkeh]

The Android version of the game is even worse.

 

EA steers angry customers away from reviewing games at Google Play « The Verge

 

 

 

Just when you thought you couldn't hate EA any more, they have another trick up their sleeve.

[X-13]

Just when you thought you couldn't hate EA any more

 

I can ALWAYS hate EA more.

 

I even borrow hate from other things to do it.

[BKGarry]

I think I am going to go for War for the Overworld :-)

 

Although I did start playing Dungeon Keeper on my Mac at home and stuck at the same old level as when I was a youngun.

 

The thing is, if they had release theme hospital like this, I don't think we would of minded so much, taking a day to build say the operating theatre, but a Day to dig in DK - HELL NO!!!!!

[Garacesh]

I want to get WFTO, but I think I'm going to wait. This is one of those games I know I'm going to absolutely hammer once it's out and I don't want to over-play it before it's completed.

As for this version of Dungeon Keeper? Blah. It can go and rot. Still haven't bought DK from Gog, but that's because there's apparently a lot of compatibility issues with Win7. Anyone bought it who can confirm if it works or not?

[BKGarry]

@Garacesh

 

I have it running in DOSbox on a mac, so surely you can use DOSbox to run it within Windows 7. I can find the startup and mapping script used for it (on my home MacBook Pro so will have to be this evening), but it will need adapting for windows over a self-contained mac app. :-)

 

I was thinking the same thing about WFTO

[Mako]

Dungeon Keeper runs flawlessly in DOSBox. You may need to tweak the DOSBox ini to emulate a computer closer to what is appropriate for DK. If I recall, it was running a bit slow out of the (dos)box, so I had to increase the cycles and other settings to get it to run at a suitable speed.

 

Alternatively, run a virtual machine of Win95 or 98 and install it there.

 

DK II, however, has issues...

[bondbill2k2]

"You have an excess of Mistresses. There's a word for keepers like you."

 

The DK2 Mentor had the best lines.

Best voice over ever. Alot of voice over for a game of that age too.

 

2:55 onwards gets odd "theirs that smell again" "my god its full of pies" "your minions crave chocolate"

 

 

Dungeon keeper 2:

Edited February 12, 2014 by bondbill2k2

[Graham-Millgate]

I actually have my original CDs still for Dungeon Keeper and the Deeper Dungeons

 

ooh, what is deeper dungeons???? I too still have my original disc and I have been playing the mobile one and getting annoyed with it. I would gladly have paid £5 for the game if it didn't have all the scam purchase stuff and I'm going to get my old game out my mums loft to start playing again so I can bin off this rubbish on my phone.

[sparkeh]

ooh, what is deeper dungeons????

Expansion pack.

Get DK Gold from Gog for $5.99 and you get Deeper Dungeons.

 

EDIT: Currently its FREE! (only just bloody bought it as well *grump*)

[Garacesh]

Expansion pack.

Get DK Gold from Gog for $5.99 and you get Deeper Dungeons.

 

EDIT: Currently its FREE! (only just bloody bought it as well *grump*)

 

Gog will be raking in the money from this I bet a tonne of nostalgic people have been buying it.

[d0pefish]

Expansion pack.

Get DK Gold from Gog for $5.99 and you get Deeper Dungeons.

 

EDIT: Currently its FREE! (only just bloody bought it as well *grump*)

 

Thanks for the tip-off. I actually think my dad still has the CD install disc somewhere at his as I bought it when it came out...but have signed up for the free copy.

[d0pefish]

Does GoG support steam or do all games purchased there have normal downloads?

Only ask as I saw Hammerwatch there (Hammerwatch for download $1.59 - GOG.com) which is awesome, I got through steam, so didn't know if buying stuff there gives steam keys

[sparkeh]

Just so you know, DK runs in DosBox, I found the default settings didn't work very well. All I needed to do was alter CPU cycles to 'auto' and the video output to something other than 'surface' to make it playable. Also when you are in game, hit ALT+R to up the resolution and its looks much better.

[Graham-Millgate]

Thanks guys, Going to treat myself to DK gold with the deeper dungeons and remove this money grubbing virus from my phone:-)

[sparkeh]

Thanks guys, Going to treat myself to DK gold with the deeper dungeons and remove this money grubbing virus from my phone:-)

You won't regret it!

[ICTDirect_Dave]

You won't regret it!

 

I've been having a right old time playing dk gold

[Mako]

You should challenge yourselves to complete the campaign in the quickest time, and post your results.

 

I remember the first time I beat it... *nostalgia*