dhoward_westexetc Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 All we know for certain is that there won't be a fix for 2003. There's actually been no announcement that there will be a fix for 2010, it's just an assumption that they will fix it at some point. 2007 and 2010 are still supported products, so it's reasonable to expect there will be a fix in the next cumulative update. I hope this turns out to be the case. Many thanks.
speckytecky Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 What's the general feeling on Edugeek now about IE11 - we blocked IE10, is the recommendation to also block IE11 or is it going to be ok with proxies etc?
edutech4schools Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 Blocked on server as that killed proxy but 10 and 11 are fine for my schools on client computers. We also use Chrome as an alternative.
dhoward_westexetc Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 What's the general feeling on Edugeek now about IE11 - we blocked IE10, is the recommendation to also block IE11 or is it going to be ok with proxies etc? I have an open call with the SWGfL regarding staff proxy not working correctly, IE 10 works fine. We're deploying IE 10 at the moment as that works but not IE 11. I always test new IE versions anyway before I deploy them to find the issues. 1
Michael Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 I would highly recommend you test, test and test again. I've also checked every other day and Microsoft still haven't published IE11 to WSUS. This is a better way rather than using the blocking tool as you can easily reverse the policy once you wish to deploy IE11.
DrCheese Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 *shrug* I don't test/test/test chrome updates With IE updates tho, I tend to deploy to a bunch of machines in stages, i.e the staff workroom and one or two computer labs. Leave it a week or two then deploy it everywhere. It honestly doesn't bother me nowadays - Worst case I just undeploy it on the machines that have software that has issues with it (usually SIMS)
dhoward_westexetc Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 All we know for certain is that there won't be a fix for 2003. There's actually been no announcement that there will be a fix for 2010, it's just an assumption that they will fix it at some point. 2007 and 2010 are still supported products, so it's reasonable to expect there will be a fix in the next cumulative update. Update Rollup 3 for Exchange 2010 SP3 now fixes the OWA Premium issue on IE 11. Can't load OWA Premium by using Internet Explorer 11 in an Exchange Server environment Just Exchange 2007 SP3 to go now! 1
DrCheese Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 It's on Windows update catalog now if you want to import it manually. 2
dhoward_westexetc Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 I may do that once they fix the OWA issue for Exchange 2007 SP3 and when I hear back from the SWGfL regarding staff proxy.
Michael Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 When you import the Update Rollups, they're Not Approved by default, but I would recommend you search and decline the update in WSUS for the time being.
dhoward_westexetc Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 When you import the Update Rollups, they're Not Approved by default, but I would recommend you search and decline the update in WSUS for the time being. The latest update rollup for Exchange 2007 SP3 is 11, which we have already installed and does not contain the fix for the user agent string. I am hoping that MS release update rollup 12 soon, and that it contains that fix.
Mark182 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I may do that once they fix the OWA issue for Exchange 2007 SP3 and when I hear back from the SWGfL regarding staff proxy. Have a look at this Link to the MS KB article. Can't load OWA Premium by using Internet Explorer 11 in an Exchange Server environment 1
dhoward_westexetc Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Have a look at this Link to the MS KB article. Can't load OWA Premium by using Internet Explorer 11 in an Exchange Server environment Thanks @Mark182, but I have already seen this. I am hoping that they will actually change OWA in Exchange 2007 SP3 instead of relying on compatibility mode. I could do compatibility mode though if push came to shove. Edited November 27, 2013 by dhoward_westexetc Changed last sentence
dhoward_westexetc Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the thought all the same. I will keep an eye on that KB article and the Exchange Team Blog, so if I see something I will post on here. Edited November 27, 2013 by dhoward_westexetc changed 2nd sentence, improved
Michael Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 The latest update rollup for Exchange 2007 SP3 is 11, which we have already installed and does not contain the fix for the user agent string. I am hoping that MS release update rollup 12 soon, and that it contains that fix. I think your options are either block IE11 via WSUS or deploy IE11 with the hassle of setting Compatibility View settings. As far as I know, you cannot deploy an exclusion list of URLs via GPO or GPP, as you can say the popup blocker for example. 1
Gatt Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 I think your options are either block IE11 via WSUS or deploy IE11 with the hassle of setting Compatibility View settings. As far as I know, you cannot deploy an exclusion list of URLs via GPO or GPP, as you can say the popup blocker for example. This is another reason why I like SCCM - you control what can and cannot be sent out to client machines. Especially when you combine it with a GPO to disable users going to Windows Update as well, thereby forcing them to get their updates from SCCM
Arthur Posted November 28, 2013 Author Posted November 28, 2013 As far as I know, you cannot deploy an exclusion list of URLs via GPO or GPP, as you can say the popup blocker for example. There's a GPO called Use Policy List of Quirks Mode sites which can force IE11 to use IE7's user agent string. Before Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko After Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; [color="#FF0000"]MSIE[/color] 7.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/7.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; Tablet PC 2.0; InfoPath.3) 1
Michael Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 Thanks Arthur, I've never looked at that policy properly. It's still not clear whether it'd work with Exchange 2013, as it runs in IE7 Compatibility Mode essentially. It would be nice if Microsoft allowed us to specify the version of IE when specifying Compatibility Mode. IE7 may be too old, but IE9 or IE10 would most probably work.
Arthur Posted November 28, 2013 Author Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) It's still not clear whether it'd work with Exchange 2013, as it runs in IE7 Compatibility Mode essentially. OWA Premium is supported for IE7 with Exchange 2007 & 2010, just not with Exchange 2013. http://i.imgur.com/TH2JOl3.png Edited November 28, 2013 by Arthur
Michael Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 OWA Premium is supported for IE7 with Exchange 2007 & 2010, just not with Exchange 2013. http://i.imgur.com/TH2JOl3.png This is what I mean - All Office 365 installs are now based on Exchange 2013. Only admins with in-house Exchange servers have more flexibility, however I still think IE11 is better blocked until early 2014 at least. It doesn't really offer anything above IE10, other than hardened security. I've not had the chance to look at it in detail.
kennysarmy Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 Just to double check : our WSUS does not syncronize "Update Rollups" - so does this mean we will be safe from WSUS presenting IE 11 to our windows 7 clients? Thanks
glennda Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 All i have done the last few days is remove ie11 from peoples machines who it causes conflict with various websites!
Michael Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Just to double check : our WSUS does not syncronize "Update Rollups" - so does this mean we will be safe from WSUS presenting IE 11 to our windows 7 clients? Thanks That's correct, but I would still recommend you import it and decline it yourself. You'll then have absolutely no worries of it suddenly being deployed.
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