Rawns Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 BBC News - Ticket issued to driver wearing Google Glass On 30 October, Cecilia Abadie was pulled over and issued with a ticket for speeding and wearing the smart spectacles while driving. Ms Abadie was cited for breaking a Californian law which prohibits people from watching TV while driving. She is now considering whether to take legal action to fight the ticket on the grounds that the device was turned off. An interesting debate. I can't decide if I agree with the ticket being issued or not. I guess that she cannot prove the device was switched off. Yet if it was on and had Google maps loaded, is it any different then looking at a sat-nav attached to the dashboard?
bladedanny Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I've never used google glass so it's hard to say. I guess if the screen takes up more than a certain percentage of your vision then it's a no go. Could also be an issue on how you focus on the screen, a sat nav would be further away so less change in focus from that to the road.
X-13 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I can't decide if I agree with the ticket being issued or not. She was speeding. The ticket is valid.
Rawns Posted October 31, 2013 Author Posted October 31, 2013 She was speeding. The ticket is valid. The ticket was for speeding and for wearing GG's. Removing the speed factor out of it (which is a valid reason for her to get a ticket anyway), what if she was not speeding and the ticket was purely for wearing GG's?
Marshall_IT Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I see no difference between using a sat nav and sing maps on glass. The issue is that in this country it's illegal to text or call on a mobile phone, unless using a hands free kit. The department for transport has already said it'll treat glass as a phone... http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jul/31/google-glass-drivers This is the issue you get when people who don't necessarily understand what they are applying law to.
X-13 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 The issue is that in this country it's illegal to text or call on a mobile phone, unless using a hands free kit. Which is really silly... it's not the phone that makes it dangerous, it's the fact you're distracted by a conversation. A long conversation on a hands free kit is a lot worse than a short one holding the phone, but only the latter is illegal.
Sdrawkcab Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 You can look away from a sat nav, though, whereas glass is always in your field of vision. I should think that's why she was ticketed for it. We shouldn't be encouraging people to wear glass in public anyway, at least not until google update the design to make it clear to other people when the camera is switched on. If I saw anyone wearing a set in this country, I would treat them the same way I'd treat anyone taking photos/video of me against my will.
Arthur Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) You can look away from a sat nav, though, whereas glass is always in your field of vision. The info displayed top right isn't always visible and Google Glass can read out directions to you/respond to voice commands (like a sat nav) so you don't have to look away from the road. http://i.imgur.com/BuomDhc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PM99vJx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8l1JW3T.png ^ The box shown in the first image above is simulated so it would actually be further to the right If I saw anyone wearing a set in this country, I would treat them the same way I'd treat anyone taking photos/video of me against my will. It isn't illegal to take pictures/record videos of other people in public places. You are also being recorded every time you pass by a CCTV camera. Which is really silly... it's not the phone that makes it dangerous, it's the fact you're distracted by a conversation. If the government ban the use of Google Glass while driving, perhaps they should also ban drivers from smoking and drinking cups of coffee. Both of which require you to take one hand off the wheel! Edited October 31, 2013 by Arthur
Theblacksheep Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 It isn't illegal to take pictures/record videos of other people in public places. You are also being recorded every time you pass by a CCTV camera. It doesn't turn off on private property. CCTV isnt uploaded for all to see on some kind of website for every muppet to see, with comments.
Pottsey Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 If the government ban the use of Google Glass while driving, perhaps they should also ban drivers from smoking and drinking cups of coffee. Both of which require you to take one hand off the wheel! I thought they already did in the UK.
Arthur Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I thought they already did in the UK. Not sure, although smoking is illegal in company-owned vehicles from what I have read.
StevieM Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 If the government ban the use of Google Glass while driving, perhaps they should also ban drivers from smoking and drinking cups of coffee. Both of which require you to take one hand off the wheel! Don't know about smoking, but it is definitely illegal to drink a cup of coffee while driving.
Theblacksheep Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I thought they already did in the UK. Not specifically banned, but you can be done for careless driving should the police think you are not concentrating on driving.
Arthur Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) Don't know about smoking, but it is definitely illegal to drink a cup of coffee while driving. I guess a lot of drivers aren't worried about being done for careless driving because I see a lot drinking hot/cold drinks while driving where I live (usually after filling up their cars at petrol stations). Edited October 31, 2013 by Arthur
Theblacksheep Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) I didn't know that. I guess a lot of drivers don't know it is illegal either (or simply don't care) because I see a lot drinking hot/cold drinks while driving where I live (usually after filling up their cars at petrol stations). Thats not correct, its not "illegal" as in a criminal offence. They are committing no crime. It CAN BE a civil offence if the police deem you are not in control of a vehicle, it is the police officers discretion. Edited October 31, 2013 by Theblacksheep
Arthur Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Thats not correct, its not "illegal" as in a criminal offence. They are committing no crime. Thanks! I edited my post after seeing your reply to StevieM.
StevieM Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Thats not correct, its not "illegal" as in a criminal offence. They are committing no crime. It CAN BE a civil offence if the police deem you are not in control of a vehicle, it is the police officers discretion. I stand corrected... for the second time today!
Arthur Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 If Google Glass automatically detected you were in a car and could transfer the information directly to the cars entertainment/navigation system then surely this would be okay in the eyes of the law? Mercedes Is Testing Google Glass Integration, and It Actually Works « Wired The first application is a navigation program that allows you to enter an address through Google Glass, get in your car, plug in your phone and then the destination is transferred to the in-dash navigation system. Once you've arrived near the restaurant/bar/nightclub/BBQ joint and unplug your phone, the system re-transfers the data back to Glass to complete the journey.
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