X-13 Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 No, because that'd equate being abused on twitter with being looked at... True, but it depends on what caused the abuse in the first place. If it was something that was intended to deliberately annoy people, then you can't be surprised when people respond negatively. Granted, rape threats are on the most extreme end of negative reactions [which is putting it mildly] but some people lack the linguistic ability to properly articulate their point and are reverting to profanity and intimidation. However, responding to something innocuous like "I like chicken" with rape threats... Yeah, that's messed up.
NikChillin Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 I think that if a woman can't make a point over the internet without some men making violent threats, it is a sad reflection on the morals and intelligence of the male of the species. Do these men feel threatened maybe?
LoyalHeretic Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 1. Threatened? Almost certainly, no-one should have an opinion that conflicts with my own. 2. Sense of entitlement? damn right, the power of anonymity on the internet means I can inflict MY opinion on anyone I like (see section '1.'), and if they don't agree with that then I can say whatever I like without fear of reprisal. But then that begs the question of how we can remove the mindset that anonymity allows us to be as vile and ridiculous as we like WITHOUT affording everyone the basic right to privacy? V-Chips? Segregation? Censorship? For some reason, I can't see any form of legislation making this better, and short of the world becoming a nicer place to live in, I don't see what can easily be done about it.
pcstru Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 But then that begs the question of how we can remove the mindset that anonymity allows us to be as vile and ridiculous as we like WITHOUT affording everyone the basic right to privacy? A right to privacy is not a right to avoid the consequences of your actions, when those actions are either illegal or actionable under civil law. The mindset that thinks it is, is simply mistaken. V-Chips? Segregation? Censorship? For some reason, I can't see any form of legislation making this better, and short of the world becoming a nicer place to live in, I don't see what can easily be done about it. All the legislation that is needed is already on the books. The OP seemed (it's not quite clear what he was saying and he has chosen not to clarify) to be suggesting that people who have been on the receiving end of threats should put up with it or more, shut up if they don't like being threatened in response to their advocacy. That's rather ... dumb IMO.
NikChillin Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Although to remain anonymous is usually quite difficult.
localzuk Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Indeed, in most cases, anonymity is simply an illusion.
Marci Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Some of you may find Twitter and Report Abuse Buttons – Pitfalls and Solutions | PitKanary interesting...
Gibbo Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Maybe I should have said something along the lines of if you are going to post something on twitter that you may know may cause a reaction from bigotted morons, don't expect not to have at least some backlash. Then when the press gets involved you know its going to get worse. Is your thread in response to this news story? Bomb threats on Twitter made against female journalists BBC News - Bomb threats on Twitter made against female journalists I think sometimes you don't consider the big picture on some subjects, same with your thread about the child porn on Google. Have a word with your local CEOP representative and you'll find it does exist.
mattx Posted August 1, 2013 Author Posted August 1, 2013 Is your thread in response to this news story? Bomb threats on Twitter made against female journalists BBC News - Bomb threats on Twitter made against female journalists I think sometimes you don't consider the big picture on some subjects, same with your thread about the child porn on Google. Have a word with your local CEOP representative and you'll find it does exist. I consider the big picture thanks very much. I have no idea who my CEOP representative is, even if I did I would probably know a darn site more than them.
Gibbo Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I have no idea who my CEOP representative is, even if I did I would probably know a darn site more than them. Yeah, sure you would. You don't even know that Google can be used to find and link to child porn. I sincerely hope you're not in charge of a school's IT systems.
mattx Posted August 2, 2013 Author Posted August 2, 2013 Yeah, sure you would. You don't even know that Google can be used to find and link to child porn. I sincerely hope you're not in charge of a school's IT systems. Nope, I'm in charge of a far more complex global setup.
localzuk Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Nope, I'm in charge of a far more complex global setup. That has nothing to do with child protection. So, the point still remains.
GREED Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Have we got a little personal in this thread?? Perhaps back the the OP?
localzuk Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Have we got a little personal in this thread?? Perhaps back the the OP? Mattx is the OP... Everything has been on topic and to the point that I can see, all relating to internet abuse and crime.
GREED Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Original point. And I'm talking about the personal back and forth going on...
mattx Posted August 2, 2013 Author Posted August 2, 2013 That has nothing to do with child protection. So, the point still remains. Interesting, just wondering how you know that ?
localzuk Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Interesting, just wondering how you know that ? Think you misunderstood. My comment was that whatever "system" you manage is irrelevant, the original point was that you don't seem to understand child protection - not knowing who your CEOP person is (if you work with kids anyway, but then if you don't, that'd render your reply null anyway), the fact, as commented by someone else, that you dont think child pornography can be found on Google etc... It all comes back to the original subject - no-one should face abuse online, it should he easier to tackle it and this affects kids too. 1
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