GrumbleDook (18th October 2011)
mentions the following...Other people suggest that Apple should allow OS X to be virtualized on any brand of hardware, even suggesting that Apple should sell a special license for this case. But this is a bad idea. Just selling the OS separately to run as a VM... what's the point of that? So people can run it without buying Apple hardware? What's in it for Apple? Then you'd have all these people who can't afford "real" hardware clogging up the Apple support ecosystem because their piece-of-*** machine doesn't paint the graphics as well as a MacBook.
Other folks have suggested that Apple should sell these virtual hardware licenses so Mac OS X can run in a datacenter on real datacenter (e.g. "non-Apple") hardware which could be used to drive massive OS X-based VDI deployments. Again, this would be a colossally bad thing to do. The reasons people use VDI and the reasons they use Macs are not the same reasons. (In fact, they're almost the opposite.) And all of the beautiful graphics that Apple has can't be remoted except with the fastest LANs, so if you're only going to use an OS X-based VDI environment with a fast LAN... really.. what's the point? (Source)
It might be fine now.Code:Improve Active Directory and LDAP integration.
You could ask why did they discontinue the Xserve and replace it with non-enterprise solutions with no power redundancy and in the case of the mac mini no way of using more than one Ethernet port?
Also why the hell did they release lion server as they have done. Will they look to release a more fully fledged version with the service management tools put back in server admin?
Having looked at the mac "server" mini, its rubbish - having a redundant hd doesn't make it server grade. It doesn't have much in the way of ventilation, and generally seems low quality to me, especially given the price. Also VDI and server virtualisation arn't quite the same thing. You can have other benefits with virtualisation like reduced electricity bills, hardware redundancy etc. Like you say, you don't really want to do video editing etc with VDI. The cost of a mac server is quite high if I just want to use MCX and workgroup manager, it really doesn't warrant its own physical box.
Anyway, I think this might be OT now.
I have to agree with those of you wanting to virtualise your servers to allow for some redundancy. The idea of running multiple Mac Minis to try to do this is missing the point. Although that last question is tongue in cheek it was based on a real request from a member.
Thanks for the feedback ... keep it coming. I know a few ASEs are reading this thread too ... so nothing should come as too much of a surprise to those at the event.
You only have to look at Apple's three year court case with Psystar in the U.S. and Steve Jobs killing off the Mac clones when he returned to Apple in 1997 to see that installing/virtualizing OS X on non-Apple hardware is never going to happen. Apple has zero incentive to change the status quo, especially with sales of Mac hardware increasing.Q. I want to receive more information about future Apple products and technology initiatives. How can I get this information from Apple?
A. It is Apple's policy not to comment on unannounced products or products under development, whether or not they actually exist. It is also against our policy to discuss release dates. (Source)
lower prices across the board for all of Apple's applications (particularly Lion and Final Cut Pro X). The new lower price for Lion Server also makes it more appealing to home users with multiple iDevices.
The addition of Thunderbolt on every new Mac also makes internal storage less of an issue because you can easily add it externally (see the RAID enclosures from Promise, Sonnet and LaCie), connect to a SAN using a Thunderbolt to Fibre Channel adapter or use a PCIe expansion chassis (Sonnet RackMac mini Xserver, Magma ExpressBox 3T) along with a suitable RAID card and HDDs/SSDs.
P8600/P8800) in the 2010 models to 35-45w processors (Core i5-2415M/i5-2520M/i7-2635QM) in the 2011 models while keeping the same case from the previous-generation Mac mini Server. The latest models are apparently quite noisy under load, but I expect this will change next year when Apple release Mac's based on Intel's lower power "Ivy Bridge" processors.
Updates can be handled with Reposado and software deployment with Munki.
GrumbleDook (14th October 2011)
Thanks for the information about some alternatives to WGM, etc ... one problem I am coming across though is with some schools (primary and secondary) with limited staff and time, with limited expertise, are the people hitting problems. I know we have solutions like RM CCx in schools ... and it is there for a reason. At the moment there is nothing like that with Apple (ever since they caused problems for HiResolution which resulted in MacAdministrator going!) and the idea is to have as simple a solution as possible ... and one that consistently works. That is why, even though Apple have 'fixed things' in there last update (10.7.2) there is a very valid history of them breaking things again ... and some folk are forced to use a new OS / build that doesn't always work, because that is what comes on the hardware and they can't downgrade the OS version.
How can we use iPads in education when proxy servers are used and apps don't support authentication/identification?
Thanks for the nudge, I had updated my Questions list but not on here.
I think it fits within the context of Question 2 in the same way we would have to consider similar if putting any other software / system within a school.1) What are the plans for making integration of OSX.7 and AD actually happen and stay as something reliable?
2) Can Apple give examples, case studies and instructions about how to employ iOS Devices in a multi-device, multi-user environment ... taking into consideration accessing and saving files, security, patch management, application deployment and configurations settings for accessing the network infrastructure? This includes working with educational networks where there are specific filters, proxies, firewalls, etc.
3) Can Apple be clear about how Apps are now to be licensed on iOS and LionOS devices, taking into account that this is for devices that are multi-user and users who will access multiple devices, especially in the light of recent changes to the iTunes ToS in the UK.
4) Can Apple be clear about what work they are doing with suppliers of educational resources and tools to help them provide stuff that will work across the range of Apple devices? If you can get Flash to work it would be a start!
5) When will Apple start giving information to people in schools instead of just saying "Go ask an ASE" ... who are wonderful, but people in schools also want to learn and deploy things themselves (or have to, depending on the budgets).
(Sorry if it seems that I want to do ASEs out of some business ...)
Reserve questions (in case anyone else asks one of the above or if there is a clear demonstration of it at the event)
6) Any chance of knocking another 20% off the price for schools?
7) When are you coming back to BETT instead of just being done by ASEs? (who are wonderful people ... yada, yada, yada)
8) When can we stick OSX on kit other than Apple kit? We'll pay! Honest!
Apple have allowed some resellers to sell 20+ volume licences of Mac apps now. We at Jigsaw are one of them, but it's fairly widespread I think. So if you need 20 or more Apertures, Final Cuts, Lions etc you can approach your favourite reseller. Sadly there still isn't a reseller scheme for one-off purchases like a single Lion Server licence or Apple Remote desktop.
Hope that's useful.
Well, it was a good event I did tweet a heck of a lot (I wasn't trying to compete with @TheScarfedOne and @EduTech who were at the Microsoft IT Academy event in Reading ... honest) and I am going through my notes to put together a fuller report.
I managed to get most of the questions asked during the sessions in one form or another ... and I am very thankful for some Apple staff who stayed behind to have a longer discussion.
I'll stick a link to the report in this thread once it is finished.
Once again, many thanks to all who put forward suggestions.
A little heathy competition! It looked from the tweets that were coming through to be a very usful event - even if some of the things were face palm moments - like managing apps on ipads. Grrr.
Look forward to the report. Now, Ive got to go through all my tweets too...
GrumbleDook (20th October 2011)
Shame more couldn't be asked but it seemed like such a poor answer from apple that everything must be converted to HTML5. Sorry, most companies don't have the finances to do that and re-code everything so it works like it did on flash. I have seen a handful of companies try to recruit HTML5 coders aren't cheap, infact they cost more than flash animators and this is going to be a big PITA for many people.
98% of enterprises rely on the Flash Player,
93% of educational programs with live/actionable content relies on Flash
85% of the most-visited web sites use Flash,
75% of web video is viewed using the Flash Player,
70% of web games are made in Flash.
Don't see it happening any time soon
Adobe are hedging their bets with HTML5. They acquired Nitobi and TypeKit this month, added HTTP Live Streaming support to Flash Media Server v4.5 to enable iOS devices to receive HTML5 video streams (see announcement last month) and is adding more and more HTML5/CSS3 features to their Creative Suite.
Amazon has also announced their new Kindle Format 8 spec which replaces Mobi 7 on the latest Kindles. Guess what it is based upon?
did with Machinarium? What's stopping them?
If we just count the iPad's and iPhone's, that works out to 28.19 million iOS devices sold last quarter alone. How can any business completely ignore that many potential customers?Apple Q4 2011 Results
iPhones sold: 17.07 million, 21% growth YoY
iPads sold: 11.12 million, 166% growth YoY
iPods sold: 6.62 million, -27% decline YoY
Macs sold: 4.89 million, 26% growth YoY
By comparison, Apple's competitors are shipping and/or selling approx. 200,000-2,000,000 tablets per quarter. RIM being on the low-end of that scale with their PlayBook and Samsung near the top (Asus and Motorola are somewhere in the middle).
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