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That comparison chart does not state that you cannot upgrade previous Enterprise to Education. Microsoft have told me several times now (consultants) that you can upgrade from previous Enterprise to Education but it clearly is not working.

If your using Education then you have to do the traditional wipe and load approach. I'm going Enterprise as I want to upgrade machines for ease. Education is looking to be just a SKU

There are different branches, advanced for Insiders, Current for normal home users, Delayed for Business (aka let the home users get the updates first and hit the issues) then there's LTSB. People need to get out of the habit of waiting months/years before deploying updates as it's more of a security risk nowadays and is a stupid old school approach. If you have the correct procedures in place then if a update does come down with issues you should be able to revert pretty quickly with very small impact.

LTSB is definitely not in Education, I have it installed in several VM's, can give you the ISO if you don't already have

Instead of working with schools to create a true Education version that has none of the metro apps on other then the calc and alarms because let's be honest they are the only useful ones in a majority of schools they come up with home to enterprise upgrade and no LTSB. It's a spit on approach and they are trying to tout it out to the world that they have made a special education version that will help schools worldwide and make people think they are really working closely with education. The Windows dev team need to take a leaf out of the Office 365 dev teams book. Office 365 is basically free for education now for Exchange, Skype for Business and Sharepoint along with giving Office away for free to Faculty and Students. Those 2 in comparison, come on... Really... It's abysmal. I'll change strategy tomorrow and stick with Enterprise, hoping Microsoft will come clean and draw up a proper route for Education to follow. P.S. No arguments here, just some friendly banter in what seems an idiotic play by Microsoft :-)

The cost is irrelevant as you can buy the £400 home device and still have it wiped and loaded to enterprise... The perk of upgrading home to education with an EES agreement is stupidly small and I mean stupidly small. Majority of schools either have an in-house tech or external company that could just take the enterprise ISO, boot off it and voila within the same amount of time as doing the upgrade have it wiped and installed from fresh with no other benefit other than saving stupid apps that come with laptops that are aimed at a home audience...

If you have EES you can buy devices with home and wipe and load them to Enterprise? I still fail to see that upgrading home devices to education is a perk nether can that be done through SCCM as home can't be domain joined

Just copy the group policy definitions from %system% on a client install of 10 to your central group policy store in Sysvol, aka Google " copy GP windows 7 to Sysvol" for a dummy guide

So no use at all unless you want to upgrade a home device to education, might as well wipe and load enterprise

Call this number 0800 917 9016, option 2 and then 2 again, give them contract number and tell them, they will sort it. Make sure you tell them you want both KMS and MAC for 10 enterprise, pro and education as well as the Server 2012 for Windows 10 KMS key

Microsoft have touted that they wanted schools to roll out to Windows 10 this summer to showcase the new OS that's why a technical event was hosted in Reading 2 weeks ago on open invitation to people who were up for it, problem was they had no more info then what was readily available on the Internet. Ive just heard back from a Windows deployment consultant direct at MS in the U.S. :- Hi Andy, Thanks, just threw it out to a room of 60 Win 10 deployment people and its meant to work! I’ll see if I can lab this up later and I’ve also pinged the course leader to see where this might be going wrong. ----- They've promised me an answer on the OS upgrade front in the next 24 hours and will have me more information on the Windows 10 Educatuon version by end of week as to what is the roadmap plan or whether it's a simple SKU filler. Will update when I have anything worth while.

@dblight How to upgrade to Windows 10 using the task sequence in System Center 2012 R2 Configuration Manager - System Center Configuration Manager Team Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs The purpose of the upgrade is to have having to go around and PXE boot your environment and re-install your apps as you would with a usual wipe and clean, take SIMS as a great example thanks to the new Solus3 client that has to be installed via the Solus3 deployment GUI for every machine and cannot be deployed as a package/application in a build task sequence whereas with an in place upgrade ( tested and working enterprise to enterprise ) the Solus3 agent still works and no need to redeploy from the Solus3 GUI. The part I'm trying to get at is that Microsoft stood right in front of me at a regular event and said Education version is the way forward for us and that later down the line Enterprise will probably be retired from OVS for us. The difference in version is only LTSB and that is designed for critical services such as Medical and Traffic Control that can't upgrade without causing potential physical harm which I fully agree with as I still see people running 2003 and XP which is just facepalm. Microsofts main problem is they have not made a clear and bold statement to the Education sector on why there is this new version, what its true intention is for, why we should use it over Enterprise and its upgrade paths. All they've done is chuck the name Education on as a version, put it in a version list online, state its for schools with no other information, say it's free to upgrade to from Pro if you have a VL agreement (der! because VL currently give us Education and Enterprise as we pay for the subscription) and market it out like they have closely worked with schools to provide the perfect build which they haven't because I still have to hack the WIM to death to remove provisioned apps such as Bing, Zune, Xbox and all the other stupid metro apps that MS think education want that no school ever said "you know what, I really want those apps for our kids to abuse with Microsoft accounts"

Evening all, Long time reader, very infrequent poster (if only I had the time...). I'm posting this as a warning to all Education Volume License users in the hope they don't waste the same amount of time and effort I have, I'm only taking the time to post this from home out of anger against Microsoft. Now to the point:- If you are currently using an Enterprise version of Windows whether it's 7, 8 or 8.1 then use Enterprise NOT Education. I'm a build enthusiast and have just spent the last 2 days editing x86 and x64 Education Windows 10 WIM's, removing all the provisioned Appx packages and what not and then trying to deploy them out as task sequence Windows 10 upgrades with no success. Upon losing my rag with the lack of code coming back in my SMSTS log I proceeded to just walk ISO's on a USB HDD over to some test machines and surprise surprise when trying to run the in-place setup upgrade from a Win 10 Edu ISO on Enterprise 7 and 8.1 machines there was no option to retain apps and it was going to do a full clean install and at best retain settings. Low and behold I use a Win 10 Ent ISO and the upgrade and retain Apps option is there. You can only upgrade previous Pro versions to Education not Enterprise, previous Enterprise can only upgrade to 10 Enterprise or you have to use a traditional wipe and load method. You are licensed to use Enterprise as part of your OVS-ESS agreement and strongly recommend you stick with Enterprise, Education edition is a farce! I have emailed a few Microsoft consultants from a Windows 10 tech event I went to a few weeks ago as when I asked about this exact scenario they all seemed unsure and then turned around in consensus and said yes upgrading previous Enterprise to Education was supported even though I was still skeptical so am hoping they will now proceed to speak to the U.S. and get a proper answer and statement online regarding this! Here are some screenshots for proof:- https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=697E035583340A21!2351&authkey=!AGvE6nzL57gPwis&v=3&ithint=photo%2cpng Andy (A very angry deployment specialist having wasted 2 days)

Cheers Vik, pretty much what I thought. I'd love to change the logon scheme but thats just not feasibly possible in the environment i'm in due to the ammount of students currently in play. Salamander is looking promising to keep the information in sync so will be looking at a demo Tuesday. Andy

Afternoon all, Want to throw a question out to the masses here about what people do for their AD logon creation process within their school. Interested in secondary and above. Having implemented systems such as Moodle, Access-IT, Equitrac, Show My Homework and a ton of others i'm now really annoyed with the way the so called "LDAP Synchronization" is handled. Technically they are not synchronizing they just using LDAP authentication and then marrying up Firstname/Surname with accounts in their own systems, as such you then either create users manually in these systems or have to have a SIMS synchronization setup. Now i'm more than happy to have these synchronize with SIMS and then use LDAP authentication accept for the fact that SIMS and Active Directory do not natively have a synchronize method and I usually just do SIMS export before the start of a new year and then CSV import to create the users with the username convention, exchange attributes etc... that I want. This process works great until admission staff and other admin people realise that students names are wrong, spelt wrong, have random characters in (usually hyphen), surname/forename the wrong way round and change them. Same goes for mid year name changes, mid year admissions etc... Now you would think "well whats the issue here?", the admin people email IT support and let them know so they can make the necessary change... NOPE. As a result Jonny now cant logon to the library system because his AD details do not match that of the details in the library system sync'd from SIMS. I'm looking at SalamanderSoft's Active Directory tool at the moment and just wanted to see what others out there are doing in these scenario's as I'm getting tired of constant mistakes/changes in SIMS being made and we're not advised therefore impacting authentication on other systems. Thanks in advanced. Andy

Jumping on this too as I have had a user saying she has noticed this error for a few weeks now but does not impact performance or usage. She has only just got around to sending me a screenshot of it today and its exactly the same as Kineas. I'm running full SQL 2012 on Server 2008 R2 with a good 10 other DB's and never had this issue up until now, not that its really an issue. I noticed on Kineas picture he's running Windows 7 (or even Vista) on the client, i'm Windows 8.1, also I know it cannot be our network as we would exhibit bigger problems than this.

Resolved the issue in the end. 1. Make sure your graphics drivers are installed correctly, by this I mean ensure that if your using such drivers that introduce tabs into the advanced graphics windows that they are working correctly (damn you Intel...!) 2. Kodu will crash if no internet access is present (seems a bit poop to me but hey its Microsoft!). I was logging on with an account that did not have my Proxy GP applying, upon adding in my proxy details to IE (other browsers are available...) and then making sure I could browse the web Kodu flew open with no issue. In short - Check GFX drivers and make sure you have internet access!

Exact same issue for me with exact same event viewer logs, both 3.5 and 4 XNA framework present and both dot net 3.5 and 4. Only happening on 1.4, Windows 8.1 x86. Reverting back to 1.3

What driver are people using in WDS for these C50's ? Just come across them today, C50-A to be exact and downloaded the appropriate driver package, cross checked against device manger and matching the signature. Inserted to WDS, Injected into Boot Image and all I'm getting is WDSUtil: Cannot contact DHCP. Why WDS does not have an F8 option like SCCM is beyond me as I could sit there and install drivers into the Windows PE live until I find the right one :< EDIT: RESOLVED - Shift + F10 was what I was looking for. Only 1 specific driver out of the whole package works with a x86 boot image so be warned. After using DISM to strip out all the drivers and using the DRVLOAD in the WDS Shift + F10 CMD I managed to find the 1 driver and then load that individual driver back into my BOOT.WIM.

Exact same scenario here only a month later than you. Crap software, crap install, crap crap crap... Still looking for solution.

Would love to but wrapped up in other projects at the moment

Love the fact that I stumble across this exact topic posted today while sitting in my chair uttering profanity at my monitor while my current internet security provider (cloud based) tells me that the fix for an issue i've been investigating for 2 months is to put a PAC file exception in so that traffic for said website (WebEx and its desktop client) is routed direct to the net away from their services. Low and behold I then phoned the account manager to advise I will be cancelling the contract as July as routing traffic away from their services is an unacceptable solution for a school environment. Anyways, down to the point. I'm looking for a web security package in the form of Web Filtering/Security and Email Filtering/Security. Ideally said offering would be able to handle in-house profanity filtering which the current provider cannot offer as its cloud based and routing all traffic outside the network and back in just seems f'ing stupid... As you can also guess I wasn't the person who brought this solution. In order for the in-house email profanity filtering i'm going to be looking at an in-house solution. Hardware is not an issue due to a massively overspecced VMware farm. Smoothwall looks OK on paper and have heard of them throughout the years but cannot see any email security offerings on the website and would like to know how/what solutions other users use to fore fill their needs.

I'm running Server 2012 + SQL 2012 with both SIMS and FMS absolutely fine on the summer release absolutely fine with no issues however I do now have a snag as of last week! The Autumn update will not run on the SQL 2012 database so I have a support ticket raised for this. Disappointed in the fact that they got the documentation on supportnet after I had upgraded!