johnkay21 Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Hi all, When I arrived at work today one of my servers was shut down. When I restarted the server it began to boot. BUT when it get to the (server 2003 load up screen) it stays on the load up screen for about 30 seconds and then the server restarts it self and it keeps doing it. Now I have just restarted it my self and I have got the "Blue screen of death" with the following info: STOP: c000021a {Fatal Sytem Error} The Non-DLL file included in the knownDLL list. system process terminated unexpectedly with a status of 0xc000036f (0xe187c7e0 0x00000000) The system has been shut down. ANY IDEAS ANYONE.....
Guest Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Take a look here http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;156669
johnkay21 Posted June 20, 2007 Author Posted June 20, 2007 Ive Tried: Safe Mode, Last known Good Confiuration Debugging Mode Safe Mode with Command Prompt... I really don't want to have to format the drive.
eean Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Clone the drive, if you can, so if you mess anything else up you can't have made anything worse. Also, if it's a knackered HD then you'll be working on a new one. Then reinstall windows using the recovery option.. that SHOULD put all the dlls back but still leave your config intact.
johnkay21 Posted June 20, 2007 Author Posted June 20, 2007 j17sparky Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: Re: SERVER FAILURE HELP!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whats the server do? The server is our moodle server (vle) although it is not up and running yet it still containd vital data.
johnkay21 Posted June 20, 2007 Author Posted June 20, 2007 I think the problem could lie with the installation of server 2003 SP2 as It was in the middle of this when it was shut down!!! does this mean anything to anyone???
eean Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Yep, that would probably do it. Reinstalling windows should fix that, so long as you write over new dlls with older ones. It's all a bit messy though - you could end up with unexpected problems later. Personally, I'd use something like BartPE to access the hard drive (or remove the HD and stick it in another machine), remove your data then format and start again. Then, all you have to do is reinstall moodle and copy the data back in. (I'm assuming that moodle stores all its config in files or a database, so long as you keep the locations the same, it should work fine).
bossman Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Excuse me for asking but why have moodle running on such an unreliable OS like win2k3 surely Ubuntu would be faster and more reliable. Anyway have you tried booting form a live linux distro and copying the moodle and MySql onto another drive which has a linux distro installed such as ubuntu. If your server was formatted as NTFS should be able to get it up and running with a little bit of tweaking. Geoff might be able to help as he seems to be quite the guru with linux give him a PM.
Disease Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Excuse me for asking but why have moodle running on such an unreliable OS like win2k3 surely Ubuntu would be faster and more reliable. See now this annoys me a lot, exactly how is Server 2003 Unreliable? I have been running 2003 since it came out and never once had a failure due to the OS on any of my 15 servers. If it was that unreliable as you claim then big business would all be using Linux for their networks which clearly they are not. I hate it when people claim that an OS is unreliable just because of a personal angst against the manufacturer. I personally hate Linux and would never use it in my network but I won't claim it is unreliable as that is just not true. Same as you claim. OP, were you present when the service pack was applying? (If not why the hell are you applying service packs to servers with no one present.) If you were present then thats your answer it failed to apply the service pack properly and so the OS would be screwed, Follow the KB article as suggested then go from there.
greenfieldsupport Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 I dont like my windows severs as they need restarting every now and then for updates or just because they become weird after a while... 150 days seems like a max to me. where as my linux plod on forever... Other then that they are reliable.. @ johnkay21 I would download an iso for knoppix... burn it to a disk... and use it to copy all your data to a windows/smb share. or another disk drive.. Then just rebuild windows. as the repair sometimes throws all sorts of problems up, presides it doesnt sound like it would take too long to reset up as you only have moodle on it . or at least alot less time then DNS/ AD etc.
CyberNerd Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 big business would all be using Linux for their networks which clearly they are not that claim is just as absurd as the last
Geoff Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 exactly how is Server 2003 Unreliable You're right Disease, I wouldn't call it unreliable (it's usually the drivers). However, there are scalability issues running a WAMP/WIMP server. Windows Server is rather dreadful at context switching. If it was that unreliable as you claim then big business would all be using Linux for their networks which clearly they are not. Large chunks of the Internet are run on *nix and more often Linux these days. For example, over 50% of the web according to Netcraft (Assuming Apache = *nix is sensible I think).
greenfieldsupport Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 I dont like the letters IIS.... they scream "security problem" to me. I remember when I worked for one company and a webserver got killed by code red. :\ and they had the latest updates at the time.
tom_newton Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 better than knoppix, download trinity rescue kit - its smaller, and it's tailored to the task of rescuing clinkered PCs. It'll even clone a drive over the network. http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?wpid=1&front_id=12
Geoff Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 IIS 5 and below, you'd be right. IIS6 however has a pretty decent track record.
Disease Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Large chunks of the Internet are run on *nix and more often Linux these days. For example, over 50% of the web according to Netcraft (Assuming Apache = *nix is sensible I think). Assuming Apache = *nix is exactly that, an assumption, we are running Apache here, on a windows 2003 Server. My point about big business is not directed to the interent it is directed at core networking and I am afraid to say that most Very Large Business use Windows for their core network functionality.
ninjabeaver Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 @tom_newton:- Thanks for that link @johnkay21:- Any joy yet on your problem?
CyberNerd Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 My point about big business is not directed to the interent it is directed at core networking and I am afraid to say that most Very Large Business use Windows for their core network functionality. WTF? precisely no businesses use Windows to provide core network functionlity - Cisco, HP,3com maybe. windows no.
Disease Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 WTF? precisely no businesses use Windows to provide core network functionlity - Cisco, HP,3com maybe. windows no. You are just being pedantic now, you know exactly what I was on about, Windows do not make routers when I said core network fuctionality I was refering to Dhcp, Filesharing, user accounts etc. @OP Any news?
webman Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 A lot of companies use microsoft because they know no better and take notice of their marketing drivel. DHCP and file sharing are prime examples of where *nix shines brighter than redmond.
ninjabeaver Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Woa there guys, we are supposed to be trying to help johnkay21, not starting a flame war.
CyberNerd Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 WTF? precisely no businesses use Windows to provide core network functionlity - Cisco, HP,3com maybe. windows no. You are just being pedantic now, you know exactly what I was on about, Windows do not make routers when I said core network fuctionality I was refering to Dhcp, Filesharing, user accounts etc. Sorry Disease, with all thse idiotic statements you keep making I assumed you were that badly informed
contink Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Woa there guys, we are supposed to be trying to help johnkay21, not starting a flame war. Seconded... Do we have to turn this into another version of "my OS is better than your OS??" machismo sweat fest?
starscream Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 better than knoppix, download trinity rescue kit - its smaller, and it's tailored to the task of rescuing clinkered PCs. It'll even clone a drive over the network. http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?wpid=1&front_id=12 So could this be used as a disk imaging solution?
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