SYNACK Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Server 2012 should be installed in 'server core' mode, ie headless and powershell used to manage it. Meh, thats up to the individual admins, You don't suggest the everyone forgoes the managment apps for ESXi and does it manually. Same thing here, you can dump server core on it and use whatever tools nessisary to configure it from a different system without affecting server performance or security. GUI or PowerShell, just use the tool most suited to the job, its just the same as 2008r2 core, you can remote manage that to.
sted Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Server 2012 should be installed in 'server core' mode, ie headless and powershell used to manage it. sorry if all goes wrong id rather be able to use the console to fix it. say networking goes belly up and your only access is mmc/rdp youre a bit stuck
Arthur Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 This could be useful... Hyper-V VM Migration Script – Quick Migration from v2 to v3 2
CyberNerd Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 sorry if all goes wrong id rather be able to use the console to fix it. say networking goes belly up and your only access is mmc/rdp youre a bit stuck you still get a console on the local machine with 'core server' so if it all goes wrong you can still get local access. No different than a *nix server.
SYNACK Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) you still get a console on the local machine with 'core server' so if it all goes wrong you can still get local access. No different than a *nix server. A little different if you can get IP back, you get way better GUI tools to mess with the windows side ;D But yea, you are right, you get a console to play with if everything goes south you still have a shell that can configure everything. The only issue is that the GUI has paied the price as there are some things you can no longer do with the GUI alone so you need to venture back in time to monochrome text mode in order to do certain things, local GUI install or not. Edited August 5, 2012 by SYNACK
jimmy_2k Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Why are some NMs in a rush to roll out the latest server/workstation OS? Ok its good to be ahead with technology but where technology hasn't been able to "mature" if you like you could end up with a few problems which may take up a lot of time and cause disruption to users to fix. With schools these days that disruption leads to a lot of lost teaching time. We are still running XP workstations which I would have migrated over to Windows 7 this summer, however as I have had to migrate to a vanilla Server 2008R2 Domain this summer and there will be teething issues I felt expecting users to learn a new operating system at the same time wasn't the right way to do it. We will however be testing Windows 7 with a group and classroom of users before going live school wide.
tmcd35 Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Why are some NMs in a rush to roll out the latest server/workstation OS?. I doubt it's a case of being in a rush. As with anything, you need to do a risk/benefits analysis and see what's right for your individual setup. Am I in a rush to install Win2012? Not really, certainly have no foreseeable need to upgrade our DC's and we are still running a number of Win2k3 servers. Win2012 has some specific technological advances that 4 of my servers in particular will benefit from. Will I install day one? No, but I'm not going to wait for SP1 either (unless there are some particularly nasty Vista-esque/ME reviews early on).
ColonelHawx Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) I am hoping to beta 2012 soon, any idea if the multiple password reset functionality have been included in AD?? I cant wait to test it out... Already running Win8 on my PC, so far so good... Need a touch screen monitor now Edited August 17, 2012 by ColonelHawx
SYNACK Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 Why are some NMs in a rush to roll out the latest server/workstation OS? Ok its good to be ahead with technology but where technology hasn't been able to "mature" if you like you could end up with a few problems which may take up a lot of time and cause disruption to users to fix. With schools these days that disruption leads to a lot of lost teaching time. We are still running XP workstations which I would have migrated over to Windows 7 this summer, however as I have had to migrate to a vanilla Server 2008R2 Domain this summer and there will be teething issues I felt expecting users to learn a new operating system at the same time wasn't the right way to do it. We will however be testing Windows 7 with a group and classroom of users before going live school wide. I'll try 2012 on the firewall server for its DA components just on that server but only if it proves itself in a bit of testing maybe on the VM hosts a little later. W8 is going on the new testing slates that we got as it is better suited to them (as testing with the RC has proved). We won't go fully upgrade crazy untill it proves useful but there is no reason for users not to have access to it in a few places to start getting used to it. We don't want to be one of those schools still stuck with a 10 year old OS so we keep rolling the new stuff through into testing then operation so that the users and the network don't stagnate and end up sticking with an OS older than most of its users at the school and as such too old for many of them to have seen outside a school.
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